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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Signed push
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:54:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPc5daWJj1oM3ebc59sbpORggoigyq-hSOvfc0ueFHD=WeCYWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140820011935.GC3104@localhost>

Sorry, but I cannot answer, as the only thing that I recall when
I hear "branch object" was that I heard the phrase used but
without much substance.

I do not think I saw a clear explanation on what it is, how it is
represented, how it is presented to the end user, how it is
propagated across repositories (if it is to be propagated),
how it is stored (if it is to be stored), how it is to be used,
etc. and such crucial details necessary to judge the merit
of thinking about introducing one. Perhaps it was explained
in the old thread, but I don't recall, so I cannot judge how
useful it would be to solve the problem the push certificate is
trying to solve.


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 03:06:09PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> While signed tags and commits assert that the objects thusly signed
>> came from you, who signed these objects, there is not a good way to
>> assert that you wanted to have a particular object at the tip of a
>> particular branch.  My signing v2.0.1 tag only means I want to call
>> the version v2.0.1, and it does not mean I want to push it out to my
>> 'master' branch---it is likely that I only want it in 'maint', so
>> the signature on the object alone is insufficient.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> This series introduces a cryptographic assurance for ref updates
>> done by "git push" by introducing a mechanism that allows you to
>> sign a "push certificate" (for the lack of better name) every time
>> you push.  Think of it as working on an axis orthogonal to the
>> traditional "signed tags".
>
> Sounds a lot like the "branch object" concept I suggest earlier, where
> each push would also push a commit to a branch object describing the
> updates to the branch, including signing of the updates to the branch
> (hey, it's just a signed commit), groups of commits pushed together / to
> be backed out together, rebase history, ...  (What about pushing
> orphaned commits?)
>
> Code-wise, would that be more or less generic?
>
> Nico
> --

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-20  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-19 22:06 [PATCH 00/18] Signed push Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 01/18] receive-pack: do not overallocate command structure Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 02/18] receive-pack: parse feature request a bit earlier Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 03/18] receive-pack: do not reuse old_sha1[] to other things Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 04/18] receive-pack: factor out queueing of command Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 05/18] send-pack: move REF_STATUS_REJECT_NODELETE logic a bit higher Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 06/18] send-pack: refactor decision to send update per ref Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 07/18] send-pack: always send capabilities Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 08/18] send-pack: factor out capability string generation Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 09/18] send-pack: rename "new_refs" to "need_pack_data" Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 10/18] send-pack: refactor inspecting and resetting status and sending commands Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 11/18] send-pack: clarify that cmds_sent is a boolean Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 12/18] gpg-interface: move parse_gpg_output() to where it should be Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 13/18] gpg-interface: move parse_signature() " Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 14/18] pack-protocol doc: typofix for PKT-LINE Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 15/18] the beginning of the signed push Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  2:48   ` brian m. carlson
2014-08-20  6:57   ` Bert Wesarg
2014-08-20 23:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 16/18] receive-pack: GPG-validate push certificates Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20 16:56   ` David Turner
2014-08-20 17:29     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20 17:56       ` David Turner
2014-08-20 19:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-21 23:59           ` David Turner
2014-08-22  0:11             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 17/18] send-pack: send feature request on push-cert packet Junio C Hamano
2014-08-19 22:06 ` [PATCH 18/18] signed push: final protocol update Junio C Hamano
2014-08-21 19:28   ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-21 23:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22  3:06       ` Kyle J. McKay
2014-08-22 17:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 23:54         ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-25 17:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-26 17:33             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-26 19:38               ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-26 19:52                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-04 23:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-09-05  2:41             ` Shawn Pearce
2014-08-22  4:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22  0:22   ` David Turner
2014-08-19 23:07 ` [PATCH 00/18] Signed push Duy Nguyen
2014-08-19 23:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  1:19 ` Nico Williams
2014-08-20  2:54   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2014-08-20  5:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  2:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-20  6:28   ` Nico Williams
2014-08-22 19:59 ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 20:03   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 20:22     ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 20:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 20:38         ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-22 22:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-22 22:51             ` Stefan Beller
2014-08-25 17:54               ` Junio C Hamano
2014-08-25 18:38                 ` Jason Pyeron

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