From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2995B1F597 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 02:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726130AbeHEEpj (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:45:39 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-f66.google.com ([209.85.161.66]:37779 "EHLO mail-yw1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725960AbeHEEpj (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:45:39 -0400 Received: by mail-yw1-f66.google.com with SMTP id w76-v6so2424775ywg.4 for ; Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:42:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tjPVeHsUL498e1KBvgdS4TE5LVg+XWeEF6825HUYHGw=; b=ngkT9tvMI0qdGl94K297zoo6qxWPq0E43Jmo5DaQKHeXdZONpOm1v6rIM8CdnIpk+i j7uZqULSbn2EKv4FCt7y8D+pNTN6XTLHIVQPDcwx0SdCqwGgN2Ds58OK3n2RA716Ku4a /2u562KhO5UKhF93rlXeYW9EcDo4rUQquP9XlRHyXhB7If/4yguYguhiOtyWH4uEkdW9 bZGY5YvXCfv9rytg73V1QSQQeWzJHqaVvdPMG+2McMnoKtD0fJSokln/p3LTnnOLCdBD gzgnipem+s6PMMLxxtFquk/IMeSu57pFZfOqDc1iiLBaSjyYksFKV6rNqN/th8gn5JOg HqNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFKg5Bi5Rk0aEMjBi09AAhSySjdIP8iEZwYPsqFl+toLdz8sm1H iJLYYvrz07Z15h1SQdvePcO7M+Wi98y7TaC7YFU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpc4acRO6i8Mfy7dtAKrTRtJjzwjj8vr3jm7tERGsg0bzSmZx9Bs42V6tSWMaYp6ZV2HL8joO4vQTkTE1koZxxs= X-Received: by 2002:a81:4153:: with SMTP id f19-v6mr5356116ywk.418.1533436965773; Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:42:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180804020009.224582-1-sbeller@google.com> <20180804020255.225573-1-sbeller@google.com> <20180804060928.GB55869@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> In-Reply-To: From: Eric Sunshine Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 22:42:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: enable DEVELOPER by default To: =?UTF-8?B?Tmd1eeG7hW4gVGjDoWkgTmfhu41jIER1eQ==?= Cc: Jonathan Nieder , Stefan Beller , =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Git List , git-packagers@googlegroups.com, Han-Wen Nienhuys Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 2:38 AM Duy Nguyen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:11 AM Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > My main concern is not about them but about other > > people building from source in order to run (instead of to develop) > > Git, and by extension, the people they go to for help when it doesn't > > work. I have lots of bitter experience of -Werror being a support > > headache and leading to bad workarounds when someone upgrades their > > compiler and the build starts failing due to a new warning it has > > introduced. > > Even old compilers can also throw some silly, false positive warnings > (which now turn into errors) because they are not as smart as new > ones. And, compilation warnings are not limited to old compilers. Even my fully up-to-date FreeBSD 11.2 installation is not warning-free[1]. [1]: For instance: utf8.c:486:28: warning: passing 'iconv_ibp *' (aka 'const char **') to parameter of type 'char **' discards qualifiers in nested pointer types [-Wincompatible-pointer-types-discards-qualifiers]