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From: Chris Torek <chris.torek@gmail.com>
To: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: git fails with a broken pipe when one quits the pager
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 04:53:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPx1Gverh2E2h5JOSOfJ7JYvbhjv8hJNLE8y4VA2fNv0La8Rtw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210201123635.GA24560@zira.vinc17.org>

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 4:36 AM Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:
> In general, repositories have more than 64k log.

Please don't focus on the exact size.  Some system might
have a multi-gigabyte pipe buffer, and some other system
might have a tiny one; we'd like consistent behavior no matter
what size the system uses.  Can we *get* consistent behavior?
I don't know.

[me]
> > The problem that has come up is, if I understand correctly, that
> > some Linux distributions have come with misconfigured pagers
> > that don't bother reading their input, and silently exit zero.
>
> They are not misconfigured. This is how they work.

A pager that reads nothing and writes nothing does not seem
very useful to me.  (Perhaps we can disregard these cases
entirely.  It's not like we should expect Git to handle things if
someone builds a version of `less` that doesn't work.  The
fact is that on these Linux systems, running `$pager foo` on a
file `foo` does nothing at all, for some values of `$pager`.  I
believe I ran into this on a Docker setup at least once.  It's
not Git's fault and hence not something for it to correct.)

[on various exit cases]
> > There's no good way for Git to be able to tell which of these was
> > the case.
>
> In the case git spawns a pager, it knows that this is a pager
> (as per documentation).

Again, this seems irrelevant.  If the pager exited correctly
while reading everything, or it exited correctly without reading
everything, or if it exited incorrectly with or without reading
everything, is not something *Git* can tell.  I'm therefore not
sure that Git should *try* to tell -- which is the point I'm trying
to make here.  The question is this: if we can only do a poor
job, should we try at all?  What *should* we do, given what
we *can* do?  All we get is SIGPIPE and an exit status, and
the SIGPIPE may or may not be meaningful.

That seems to be what you're arguing as well.  So I'm not sure
why you're objecting to what I'm pointing out. :-)

Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-15 16:15 git fails with a broken pipe when one quits the pager Vincent Lefevre
2021-01-29 23:48 ` [PATCH] pager: exit without error on SIGPIPE Denton Liu
2021-01-30  8:29   ` Johannes Sixt
2021-01-30 12:52     ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-01 15:03   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 17:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-01 19:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 20:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:05           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  4:45             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  5:25               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  7:45                 ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-02 20:13                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02 22:15                     ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-02 22:21                       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03 17:07                         ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-03 18:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-04 15:10                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-03  2:45                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-03  2:54                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03  3:36                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-03 17:19                     ` Johannes Sixt
2021-01-31  1:47 ` git fails with a broken pipe when one quits the pager Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-31  3:36   ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-01-31  3:47     ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-01-31 20:49     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 10:34       ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-01 11:33         ` Chris Torek
2021-02-01 12:36           ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-01 12:53             ` Chris Torek [this message]
2021-02-01 15:17               ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-01 15:00           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 12:10         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 14:48           ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-01 15:44             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 22:16               ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-03  2:48                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-03 17:11                   ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-03 15:26               ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-04  0:14                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-04 15:38                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2021-02-01 14:49           ` [PATCH 0/3] pager: test for exit behavior & trace2 bug fix Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  1:59             ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  1:59             ` [PATCH v2 1/5] pager: refactor wait_for_pager() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  1:59             ` [PATCH v2 2/5] pager: test for exit code with and without SIGPIPE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  8:50               ` Denton Liu
2021-02-05  7:47               ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-02  1:59             ` [PATCH v2 3/5] run-command: add braces for "if" block in wait_or_whine() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  2:00             ` [PATCH v2 4/5] pager: properly log pager exit code when signalled Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05  7:58               ` Johannes Sixt
2021-02-05 11:37                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:00             ` [WIP/PATCH v2 5/5] WIP pager: respect exit code of pager over SIGPIPE Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 14:49           ` [PATCH 1/3] pager: test for exit code Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 14:49           ` [PATCH 2/3] pager: refactor wait_for_pager() function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 14:49           ` [PATCH 3/3] pager: properly log pager exit code when signalled Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 18:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-01 19:21               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 18:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-01 19:23               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-01 22:04       ` git fails with a broken pipe when one quits the pager Johannes Sixt

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