From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kevin Ballard Subject: Re: git on MacOSX and files with decomposed utf-8 file names Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:57:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <478E1FED.5010801@web.de> <1574A90A-8C45-46AD-9402-34AE6F582B3F@sb.org> <7652B11D-9B9F-45EA-9465-8294B701FE7C@sb.org> <8AC4CC86-A711-483D-9F9C-5F8497006A1D@sb.org> <4C21C1AF-40B0-48C7-8F0E-2DAF3C5FAB29@sb.org> <46a038f90801162051s5ce40abcm623599269943a24@mail.gmail.com> <85zlv435z4.fsf@stiegl.mj.niksun.com> <3D987338-EC1E-422F-850D-D8C52345A6A7@sb.org> <0D595B77-FAD6-4899-B475-8C1190C28 E0F@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-20--872821923; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Cc: Andrew Heybey , Geert Bosch , "Kevin Ballard Martin Langhoff" , Linus Torvalds , Jakub Narebski , Johannes Schindelin , Mark Junker , "git@vger.kernel.org" To: Kyle Moffett X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Jan 19 20:58:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGJpp-0008Fx-Ih for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:58:34 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751473AbYAST6D (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:58:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751393AbYAST6D (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:58:03 -0500 Received: from sd-green-bigip-83.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.83]:49738 "EHLO randymail-a8.g.dreamhost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751222AbYAST6B (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:58:01 -0500 Received: from KBALLARD.RES.WPI.NET (KBALLARD.RES.WPI.NET [130.215.239.91]) by randymail-a8.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4066AF827; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:57:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0D595B77-FAD6-4899-B475-8C1190C28E0F@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-20--872821923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jan 19, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:04, Kevin Ballard wrote: >> The main problem with this approach is you know for certain that >> using HFSX as the boot partition is barely tested by Apple, and >> certainly untested by third-party apps. This means the potential >> for breakage is extremely high. > > No, actually, HFSX boot partitions are fairly well tested by Apple > and most 3rd-party programs. I had one for a while and the only > problems I encountered were with programs ported from Windows > without Mac versions, such as "Microsoft Office for Mac" and "World > of Warcraft". "Quake 4" has a few quirks which are easily worked > around. Perhaps the big name companies might do some testing on HFSX, but I can guarantee most third-party programs will not be tested under HFSX. Also, World of Warcraft isn't a ported program. It was developed for the Mac concurrently with the Windows version. Same with MS Office - it's an entirely different team (the Mac BU) developing MS Office for Mac independently of the Windows version, not a porting job. However, if you're saying these two big-name programs had problems, I wouldn't be surprised to see many more problems on various other third-party apps from smaller companies. In any case, "just use HFSX" is still not an appropriate solution to the problem, especially since that will only take care of case sensitivity and not the utf-8 stuff. -Kevin Ballard -- Kevin Ballard http://kevin.sb.org kevin@sb.org http://www.tildesoft.com --Apple-Mail-20--872821923 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIGMjCCAusw ggJUoAMCAQICEDsG8BKvlrEW0HUBIxWIgjUwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDQyMzIxMjM0OVoXDTA4MDQyMjIxMjM0 OVowVzEQMA4GA1UEBBMHQmFsbGFyZDEOMAwGA1UEKhMFS2V2aW4xFjAUBgNVBAMTDUtldmluIEJh bGxhcmQxGzAZBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDGtldmluQHNiLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEP ADCCAQoCggEBAN/koURrN2ndrAiuAuHHrdFz+hLGQ7ZsXloGnObjALGOFY3Kmk2FCwAJPIha5GfM YFmZIoqxs+DbOWOn6KZ9hcQ5wf4EOgokayrEs3G72T+G8ZE4aXrw0CWJzKLjaIQeDZNZoHA44jlZ dG70wtZske898IoPz6YHpkcXiulllATfd8Pa7EgjPri5hKFiRXKI52OsOQTX6cNMMZJUIm8DvfQ5 jmDyAtywNZGSGeUAMbWnpuLq7H18zpye2Q1hr+p4kucazMb+i7OHXPvX7yx2jMjhN5jw/gYkuzQQ JExp1fJyAZQ/av/ZgaxWchhhi4ziFXIlX3B09DTlOQlF53P3fi0CAwEAAaMpMCcwFwYDVR0RBBAw DoEMa2V2aW5Ac2Iub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEAw/qc6zq+0Qy2 XaodDlt2L6Vq1DzaVWjV152BFjidmsyhyCkCuyYdAcDp17opIfrNCBbOX5DdY6cpFpnSCxCZeIEB PDc3TaaFPtzr8qrpcNDohRSdt+qFLUeMHzlidAiAjvjI3tPKv3JLTakWdQR/XPHsg4mWoaVQU2hM HOQBw8EwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMG A1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBD b25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYD VQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFs LWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow 1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenpruf ZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBD BgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVl bWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVM YWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0wh uPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBP ZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCCAwwCAQEwdjBi MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoG A1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEDsG8BKvlrEW0HUBIxWI gjUwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUx DxcNMDgwMTE5MTk1NzU3WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUBKzaGz89qc/cxQuu+Lqlv+Qe99QwgYUG CSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5n IChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENB AhA7BvASr5axFtB1ASMViII1MIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJz b25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhA7BvASr5axFtB1ASMViII1MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA BIIBADVVzt5DBQBbmj3rASeDGG7kr6HAv77GcMI+plf1ZY876NPz5tP+HHHGZdpTujlTM3mCzsc+ AKwh/MmbfEH4crmc4CrOx/S8X1qXltqQOqcKjN7BsfrXcwlqP778w1vCKIAqHxTldwPgXza/zAMz 2iDc/931LopMoF7KkZhDBnbrEvTlVNYtnelbZgXqhFYtRKfPMKtxATbWx5zP9CC0avETZm3UQij3 SVrv/CjTgkOeiPmAarfVndDhPC+eyHdGEbclpMKy4fWBlvsGWjRV+xzzuiOwytANQIK5J8cuHe7V daWsggU3yw7+qc6E5VcJW6nHsXmUe4ngKd5dLMGPoYQAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail-20--872821923--