From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@uchicago.edu>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>,
Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy <pclouds@gmail.com>,
Jon Loeliger <jdl@jdl.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] Documentation: complicate example of "man git-command"
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:45:59 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0807022010280.10323@harper.uchicago.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080702213148.GA26921@fieldses.org>
J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 04:54:53PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
>> We would want to mention the typesetting convention early in the manuals
>> (git(7), gittutorial(7) and user-manual.html) as well, so how about...
>>
>> Conventions used in this document
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> When talking about a git subcommand 'cmd', this documentation
>> typesets the name of it like 'git-cmd', and that is the name you
>> ask for its manual page.
>>
>> Examples are typeset like this: `$ git cmd` (`$` is your command
>> prompt, do not actually type it to your shell). Note that a
>> subcommand is specified as the first parameter to the 'git'
>> program when you actually run it from the command line.
>
> I'm not convinced this last sentence is necessary.
I agree, but I think it doesn't hurt. I think the point was to
establish the word and concept "subcommand".
> > [example showing typographical conventions]
>
> Typographical conventions shouldn't need so much explanation.
Yes, I suppose. I'm used to printed manuals having a page on
the meaning of different typefaces inside, but that's a bit
of a different situation.
> I'm curious: Jonathan, was this the original patch the result of a
> real-life instance of confusion? What happened?
No, I'm actually a bit ashamed to have sent the patch... I was just
changing `git subcommand` to `git-subcommand` wherever it was the name
of a command, rather than the command line to run it, that was in
question. Consistency would have made the old example awkward, so I
looked around for alternatives.
Why worry about whether the man pages have no consistent rule about
dashes? Since it is not obvious why the man pages use the dashed form
when they do, I think a fraction of people will naturally use the
dashed form by default. That means trouble once Git 1.6.0 comes out
(e.g. see Ingo's recent post
<http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/87012/focus=87020>).
Here's a patch implementing Junio's suggestion, because I do like it.
Please let me know what you think (especially ideas for making it
shorter).
Thanks for all your thoughts so far. Sorry I took so long to get back.
--- %< --- %< --- %< ----
Subject: gittutorial(7): add "Conventions used in this document" section
The manual page for the git subcommand invoked as "git clone" is
named git-clone(1), and similarly for the rest of the git
subcommands. This patch should make the convention a little
clearer when it is introduced at the beginning of gittutorial(7).
Thanks to Junio C Hamano for the idea and wording.
It remains to make an analogous change for user-manual.html
and maybe git(1).
Signed-off-by: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@uchicago.edu>
---
Documentation/gittutorial.txt | 35 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
1 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/gittutorial.txt
b/Documentation/gittutorial.txt
index 036a27c..51ad814 100644
--- a/Documentation/gittutorial.txt
+++ b/Documentation/gittutorial.txt
@@ -19,12 +19,37 @@ If you are instead primarily interested in using
git to fetch a project,
for example, to test the latest version, you may prefer to start with
the first two chapters of link:user-manual.html[The Git User's Manual].
-First, note that you can get documentation for a command such as
-`git log --graph` with:
+Conventions used in this document
+---------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
-$ man git-log
-------------------------------------------------
+When discussing a git subcommand 'cmd', this documentation
+typesets the name of it like 'git-cmd', and that is the name you
+ask for its manual page by.
+
+Examples are typeset like this: `$ git cmd`. (`$` is your command
+prompt; do not actually type it to your shell.) A subcommand
+is specified as the first parameter to the 'git' program
+when you actually run it from the command line.
+
+So a typical command description may go like this:
+
+To propagate the changes you made back to the original subversion
+repository, you would use the 'git-svn dcommit' command. It does
+these things (long description here). Some examples:
+
+------------
+$ ... some example command sequence ...
+$ git svn dcommit
+------------
+
+For full details, type:
+
+------------
+$ man git-svn
+------------
+
+Introducing yourself to git
+---------------------------
It is a good idea to introduce yourself to git with your name and
public email address before doing any operation. The easiest
--
1.5.5.GIT
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-03 8:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-30 21:56 [PATCH 0/7] Some superficial documentation changes Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 22:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] Documentation: fix links to tutorials and other new manual pages Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 23:30 ` Christian Couder
2008-06-30 22:05 ` [PATCH 2/7] whitespace fix in Documentation/git-repack.txt Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 22:10 ` [PATCH 3/7] Documentation: complicate example of "man git-command" Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 23:39 ` Christian Couder
2008-07-01 16:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-01 23:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-02 21:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-03 1:45 ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2008-07-03 18:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-03 6:06 ` Christian Couder
2008-07-03 7:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-30 22:15 ` [PATCH 4/7] git-daemon(1): don't assume git-daemon is in /usr/bin Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 22:17 ` [PATCH 5/7] Documentation: prepare to be consistent about "git-" versus "git " Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 22:29 ` [PATCH 6/7] Documentation: " Jonathan Nieder
2008-06-30 22:36 ` [RFC/PATCH 7/7] Documentation formatting and cleanup Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-01 13:09 ` Olivier Marin
2008-07-01 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-03 2:09 ` Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 2:28 ` Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-01 8:42 ` [PATCH 0/7] Some superficial documentation changes Junio C Hamano
2008-07-03 4:31 ` Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 4:47 ` [PATCH 01/15] git-format-patch(1): fix stray \ in output Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 4:54 ` [PATCH 02/15] Documentation: fix gitlinks Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:03 ` [PATCH 03/15] manpages: fix bogus whitespace Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-07-04 1:14 ` Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:08 ` [PATCH 04/15] git(1): add comma Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:13 ` [PATCH 05/15] git-commit(1): depersonalize description Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:20 ` [PATCH 06/15] Documentation: rewrap to prepare for "git-" vs "git " change Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:28 ` [PATCH 07/15] Documentation: more "git-" versus "git " changes Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:30 ` [PATCH 08/15] gitdiffcore(7): fix awkward wording Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:36 ` [PATCH 09/15] manpages: italicize command names in synopses Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:37 ` [PATCH 10/15] manpages: italicize command names Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:45 ` [PATCH 11/15] manpages: italicize git command names (which were in teletype font) Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:49 ` [PATCH 12/15] manpages: italicize gitk's name (where it was " Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:55 ` [PATCH 13/15] manpages: italicize nongit command names (if they are " Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 5:59 ` [PATCH 14/15] manpages: italicize git subcommand names (which were " Jonathan Nieder
2008-07-03 6:06 ` [PATCH 15/15] manpages: use teletype font for sample command lines Jonathan Nieder
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