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From: Paul Jakma <paul@clubi.ie>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Sean <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>,
	Thomas Glanzmann <sithglan@stud.uni-erlangen.de>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Jan Dittmer <jdittmer@ppp0.net>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Git-commits mailing list feed.
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:25:59 +0100 (IST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0504250008370.14200@sheen.jakma.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504231234550.2344@ppc970.osdl.org>

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> NO.
>
> Guys, I will say this once more: git will not look at the signature.
>
> That means that we don't "strip them off", because dammit, they DO NOT
> EXIST as far as git is concerned. This is why a tag-file will _always_
> start with
>
> 	commit <commit-sha1>
> 	tag <tag-name>
>
> because that way we can use fsck and validate reachability and have 
> things that want trees (or commits) take tag-files instead, and git 
> will automatically look up the associated tree/commit. And it will 
> do so _without_ having to understand about signing, since signing 
> is for trust between _people_ not for git.

> And that is why I from the very beginning tried to make ti very 
> clear that the signature goes at the end. Not at the beginning, not 
> in the middle, and not in a different file. IT GOES AT THE END.

Actually, can you make the signature be detached and a seperate 
object? Ie, add a signature object in its own right, distinct from 
tag. They could then:

- be used to sign any kind of object
- allow objects to be signed by multiple people

Ideally, there'd be an index of signature objects by the SHA-1 sum of 
the object they sign, as the signed object should not refer to the 
signature (or the second of the above is not possible).

The latter of the two points would, in combination with the former, 
allow for cryptographic 'signed-off-by' chains. If a 'commit' is 
signed by $RANDOM_CONTRIBUTOR and $SUBSYSTEM_MAINTAINER and $ANDREW, 
you know its time to pull it. Would also work for things like "fixes 
only" trees, where (say) a change must be approved by X/2+1 of a 
group of X hacker providing oversight -> looking up the commit 
object's signatures would tell you whether it was approved.

No idea whether this is possible or practical. :) But it would be 
good for future flexibility to avoid including the signature in the 
object being signed.

regards,
-- 
Paul Jakma	paul@clubi.ie	paul@jakma.org	Key ID: 64A2FF6A
Fortune:
You give me space to belong to myself yet without separating me 
from your own life.  May it all turn out to your happiness.
 		-- Goethe

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-24 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2005-04-21 12:23   ` Git-commits mailing list feed David Woodhouse
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     [not found]   ` <20050422002922.GB6829@kroah.com>
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2005-04-23 17:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 17:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 17:50               ` Fabian Franz
2005-04-23 23:16                 ` Andreas Gal
2005-04-23 17:50               ` Sean
2005-04-23 19:02                 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-23 18:14                   ` Sean
2005-04-23 19:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 17:54               ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-23 18:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 18:06                   ` Sean
2005-04-23 19:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 18:44                       ` Sean
2005-04-23 19:58                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 19:57                       ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-23 20:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 20:24                         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-24 23:25                       ` Paul Jakma [this message]
2005-04-24 23:57                         ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  1:01                         ` David A. Wheeler
2005-04-25  1:35                           ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  2:13                             ` David A. Wheeler
2005-04-25  3:03                               ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  3:08                                 ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  1:50                           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-25  2:17                             ` Fabian Franz
2005-04-25  2:39                               ` Andreas Gal
2005-04-25  2:44                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-25  3:32                                 ` David A. Wheeler
2005-04-25  9:31                                   ` David Greaves
2005-04-25  3:08                             ` David A. Wheeler
2005-04-25  3:24                               ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  3:40                                 ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  3:47                                   ` Paul Jakma
2005-04-25  4:39                                     ` [PATCH] New option (-H) for rpush/rpull to update HEAD Andreas Gal
2005-04-25  4:47                                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-25  4:55                                         ` Andreas Gal
2005-04-25  5:18                                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2005-04-25  2:34                           ` Git-commits mailing list feed Matt Domsch
2005-04-25  2:43                             ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-23 18:39                   ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-23 18:44                     ` Thomas Glanzmann
2005-04-23 18:46                   ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-23 20:01                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 18:54                   ` Junio C Hamano
2005-04-23 18:34               ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-23 19:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 20:49                   ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-23 21:28                     ` Git transfer protocols (was: Re: Git-commits mailing list feed) Mike Taht
2005-04-23 22:22                       ` Jan Harkes
2005-04-23 23:29                     ` Git-commits mailing list feed Linus Torvalds
2005-04-23 19:30               ` Suggestion: generalize signed tags into "assertion objects" David A. Wheeler
2005-04-23 20:15               ` Git-commits mailing list feed Jeff Garzik
2005-04-25  1:26               ` David Woodhouse
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2005-04-25 15:47                     ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>

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