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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Make "git clone" less of a deathly quiet experience
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:37:26 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602102032410.3691@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602102018250.3691@g5.osdl.org>



On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Instead, it at least prints out how much data it's gotten, and what the 
> packign speed is. Which makes the user realize that it's actually doing 
> something useful instead of sitting there silently (and if the recipient 
> knows how large the final result is, he can at least make a guess about 
> when it migt be done).

Btw, we should print out the other "stages" too - the checkout in 
particular can be a big part of the overhead, and it would probably make 
sense to tell people about the fact that "hey, now we're checking the 
result out, we're not actually trying to destroy your disk".

Quite often, the way to make users happy is not by being impossibly fast 
or beautiful or otherwise wonderful, but by just _managing_ their 
expectations, so that they don't say "that's some slow crud", but instead 
say "Ok, it's a nice program, and it's doing a lot of hard work for me".

It takes me 15 minutes to clone a kernel repo over the network. Once I can 
see that most of that is getting a 106MB pack-file at 146 kB/s, I say "ok, 
that's fairly reasonable".

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-11  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-11  4:31 Make "git clone" less of a deathly quiet experience Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11  4:37 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-02-11  5:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-11 17:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11  5:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-11  7:35   ` Craig Schlenter
2006-02-11  8:44     ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2006-02-11 13:05       ` Petr Baudis
2006-02-11 13:15         ` Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2006-02-11 13:33   ` Petr Baudis
2006-02-11 13:41     ` Petr Baudis
2006-02-11 17:24     ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-11 17:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:10     ` Keith Packard
2006-02-12  3:43       ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-12  4:11         ` Keith Packard
2006-02-12 11:02           ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-12 21:04             ` Keith Packard
2006-02-16  6:56             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16  7:33               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-13  2:06           ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-13  3:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-11 18:39 ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-11 19:04   ` Linus Torvalds

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