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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Figured out how to get Mozilla into git
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:57:58 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606091450180.5498@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910606091356w391b4fdao23db5b2ce3c3e282@mail.gmail.com>



On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Jon Smirl wrote:
> 
> They need the distributed thing whether they realize it or not. Some
> of the external projects like songbird and nvu are vulnerable to drift
> since they are running their own repositories.  Once a  few
> move/renames happen they can't easily stay in sync anymore. It has
> been over a year since NVU was merged back into the trunk.
> 
> That is the same reason I want it, so that I can work on stuff locally
> and have a repository. The core staff doesn't have this problem
> because they can make all the branches they want in the main
> repository.

Yes. Anyway, I think we'll get git working well for repositories that 
size, and eventually the core developers will notice how much better it 
is.

In the meantime, the fact that git-cvsimport can be done incrementally 
means that once we have the silly pack-file-mapping details worked out, it 
should be perfectly fine to run the 3-day import just once, and then work 
on it incrementally afterwards without any real problems.

So people like you who want to work on it off-line using a distributed 
system _can_ do so, realistically. Maybe not practically _today_, but I 
don't think the git issues are serious enough that we'd be talking about 
"months from now", but more of a "in a week or so we migh have something 
that works fine for your case".

[ They had this long discussion about languages on #monotone the other 
  day, and the reason I'll take C over anything else any day is the fact 
  that a well-written C program is literally only limited by hardware, 
  never by the language. The poor python/perl guys may write things more 
  quickly, but when they hit a language wall, they hit it. 

  I think we've got an excellent data model, and handling even something 
  huge like the _whole_ history of mozilla doesn't look very daunting at 
  all. I just want to have a real test-case to motivate me to look at the 
  problems. ]

> It would be better to rsync Martins copy, he has a lot more bandwidth.
> It will take over a day to copy it off my cable modem. I'm signed up
> to get FIOS as soon as they turn it on in my neighborhood, it's
> already wired on the poles.

Sure. I actually just have regular 128kbps DSL myself. I guess I should 
upgrade to 256 (the downside of having deer munching on the roses in our 
back yard is that I don't think I even have the option for anything 
faster), but I'm so damn well distributed that the slow 128kbps is 
actually more than enough - everything serious I do is local anyway.

So it will take me quite some time to download 2GB+, regardless of how fat 
a pipe the other end has ;)

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-09 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09  2:17 Figured out how to get Mozilla into git Jon Smirl
2006-06-09  2:56 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-09  3:06 ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-09  3:28   ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-09  7:17     ` Jakub Narebski
2006-06-09 15:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 16:11         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-09 16:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 17:38             ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-09 17:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 17:10           ` Jakub Narebski
2006-06-09 18:13   ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-09 19:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 20:17       ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-09 20:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 20:56           ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-09 21:57             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-06-09 22:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09 23:16               ` Greg KH
2006-06-09 23:37               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-09 23:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  0:00                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  0:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  0:16                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  0:45                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-09 20:44         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-06-09 21:05         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-09 21:46           ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  1:23         ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-10  1:14   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-10  1:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  1:43       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  1:48         ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  1:59           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  2:21             ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  2:34               ` Carl Worth
2006-06-10  3:08                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  8:21                   ` Jakub Narebski
2006-06-10  9:00                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-06-10  8:36                   ` Rogan Dawes
2006-06-10  9:08                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-06-10 14:47                       ` Rogan Dawes
2006-06-10 14:58                         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-06-10 15:14                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-10 17:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10 18:02                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10 18:36                       ` Rogan Dawes
2006-06-10  3:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  2:30             ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  3:41             ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-10  3:55               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-06-10  4:02               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  4:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-10  6:02                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10  6:15                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-06-10 15:44                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-10 16:15                         ` Timo Hirvonen
2006-06-10 18:37                         ` Petr Baudis
2006-06-10 18:55                         ` Lars Johannsen
2006-06-11 22:00       ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-06-18 19:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-18 21:40           ` Martin Langhoff
2006-06-18 22:36             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-18 22:51               ` Broken PPC sha1.. (Re: Figured out how to get Mozilla into git) Linus Torvalds
2006-06-18 23:25                 ` [PATCH] Fix PPC SHA1 routine for large input buffers Paul Mackerras
2006-06-19  5:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-06-09  3:12 ` Figured out how to get Mozilla into git Pavel Roskin

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