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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Goo GGooo <googgooo@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.17-rc6-mm2
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:39:35 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606152335130.5498@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef5305790606152249n2702873fy7b708d9c47c78470@mail.gmail.com>



On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Goo GGooo wrote:
> 
> Thanks for explanation. Unfortunately I can't use git:// with "git
> pull" (at least in git-1.3.2). First it does some traffic, that
> suddenly stops - I guess the server starts doing *something*, perhaps
> preparing the update for me or whatnot.

Yeah, for a big pull, the server will have to think about the objects it 
is going to send you.

> I suggest adding SO_KEEPALIVE option on the git socket.

Actually, the really irritating thing is that we actually generate all 
these nice status updates, which just makes pulling and cloning a lot more 
comfortable, because you actually see what is going on, and what to 
expect. 

Except they only work over ssh, where we have a separate channel (for 
stderr), and with the native git protocol all that nice status work just 
gets flushed to /dev/null :(

Dang. It's literally the most irritating part of the thing: the protocol 
itself is exactly the same whether you go over ssh:// or over git://, but 
that visual information about what is going on is missing, and it's 
surprisingly important from a usability standpoint.

And in your case, the usability downside actually turned into a real 
accessibility bug.

Oh, well.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-16  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <ef5305790606142040r5912ce58kf9f889c3d61b2cc0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-06-16  1:14 ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Goo GGooo
2006-06-16  2:46   ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16  5:49     ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Goo GGooo
2006-06-16  6:39       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-06-16 20:56         ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-16 22:52           ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Junio C Hamano
2006-06-17  0:22           ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 22:44         ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 bert hubert
2006-06-20  3:01         ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Michal Ludvig
2006-06-20  3:22           ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Linus Torvalds
2006-06-16 12:40       ` 2.6.17-rc6-mm2 Uwe Zeisberger

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