From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Matthew L Foster <mfoster167@yahoo.com>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: git and time
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:01:54 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609271354480.3952@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060927204428.39120.qmail@web51014.mail.yahoo.com>
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Matthew L Foster wrote:
>
> What is the difference between a merge and a "merge then pushed out"?
To answer just this technical question, which came up today:
- I might do a merge at 8:30 in the morning, but since I do it on my
machine, and nobody else actually saw my merge.
- at 9:30, somebody sends me a patch that I already have (through the
merge), and I reply saying "I got this already", but I realize I
haven't pushed it out.
- so I replicate my home machine tree to the one on master.kernel.org,
and now others can see it.
When did the merge happen? It happened at 8:30 on my machine, and that's
what is recorded. End of story. No ifs, buts, maybes about it. That's the
only time you can _ever_ see for that merge.
When did everybody else see it? It only became _visible_ in the git
archive on kernel.org at 9:30, when I pushed out _all_ the merges that I
had done (some of them at 8:30, others at 8:00, yet others perhaps at some
other time).
So all those different merges, which were done at different times, only
became visible in another git repository all at the same time, at 9:30.
There's _zero_ commits or merges that themselves happened at 9:30. There's
no development at all that happened then. The only actual thing that
changed at 9:30 was that the _reference_ that made all those old changes
visible finally made it to the repository at kernel.org.
This is why you can use the ref-logging code to say "Ok, how did my
repository look at 9:25 vs 9:35" and you could see the difference. BUT NO
ACTUAL COMMIT OR MERGE WILL EVER HAVE THAT TIMESTAMP. That's purely a
"when did it show up" question, and the whole question only makes sense
within a particular repository (ie the answers are different: on _my_
machine, a merge showed up on 8:30 when it was made. On other machines,
the time will always be different).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-27 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-26 23:23 git and time Matthew L Foster
2006-09-26 23:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-26 23:32 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-26 23:33 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 0:27 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 1:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 8:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 15:28 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 14:09 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 14:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 18:01 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 20:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 21:16 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-09-27 21:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 22:28 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 23:02 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 0:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 0:21 ` Jeff King
2006-09-28 0:23 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 1:39 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 7:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-29 14:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-29 14:21 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 1:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:48 ` Matthew L Foster
[not found] ` <20060927220404.8e216945.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 2:04 ` Sean
2006-09-28 2:49 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:43 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060927230330.90c63d23.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 3:03 ` Sean
2006-09-28 3:26 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 13:17 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 14:50 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 15:29 ` Rogan Dawes
2006-09-28 16:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 17:33 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:42 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 19:43 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 19:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 22:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 22:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 8:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 19:18 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 0:27 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-29 1:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 2:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 20:36 ` Robin Rosenberg
2006-09-28 20:46 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:25 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:31 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:45 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 3:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 3:39 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 3:47 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 4:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:36 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 2:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 4:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 14:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 16:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-29 22:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 4:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-30 7:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01 0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-02 23:50 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-29 20:42 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 21:56 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 22:46 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:57 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 18:53 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-27 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 18:00 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-09-27 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 20:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 0:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 3:34 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060926234309.b16aa44e.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 3:43 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:50 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060927010437.5fa57ed0.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 5:04 ` Sean
2006-09-27 5:52 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060927021529.69fd7274.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 6:15 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:28 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 4:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 10:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 15:11 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 21:36 ` Shawn Pearce
[not found] ` <20060927002745. 15344.qmail@web51005.mail.yahoo.com>
2006-09-27 0:56 ` Sean
[not found] ` <20060926205632.5d487cc9.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 0:47 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926210721.36eb509d.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:07 ` Sean
2006-09-27 1:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 1:31 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926215836.f4a25297.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Sean
2006-09-27 2:31 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060926224133.714337eb.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 2:41 ` Sean
2006-09-29 17:37 ` Jan Harkes
[not found] ` <20060929134616.7966d18c.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-29 17:46 ` Sean
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-28 0:49 apodtele
2006-09-28 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 16:50 apodtele
[not found] <20060928170110.GD3650@socrates.priv>
2006-09-28 17:30 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 18:21 apodtele
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