From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Matthew L Foster <mfoster167@yahoo.com>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: git and time
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:54:46 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609271545140.3952@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060927222854.82278.qmail@web51014.mail.yahoo.com>
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Matthew L Foster wrote:
>
> So the separate action of replication is not tracked?
Correct. Replication without changes is a no-op.
> Replication/sub merges are denied the possibility of "truth"?
No, it's actually much deeper than that.
To git, pure replication simply isn't an action at all, so trying to track
it would be like trying to track all the voices in my head - something
that doesn't exist. It wouldn't be "truth", it would be insanity.
And the thing is, _not_ tracking it is really fundamental. If you actually
track the issue of copying a git repository, you'd end up in a technically
untenable and insane situation. You could never "merge" two git trees ever
again without going into an infinite bouncing back-and-forth of "A merged
the changes from B" and "B merged the fact that A merged the changes from
B" and "A merged the fact that B merged the fact that A merged the changes
from B" and so on ad infinitum.
There's another reason too, namely that if you track where things came
from and when, suddenly it matters whether you cloned from the _original_
repository or from somewhere else. And that's also fundamnetally wrong,
since I don't actually want to give _anybody_ access to the actual
original repository on my machine, so everything always has to go through
an intermediate repository. If we tracked that, we'd just confuse
everything, and it wouldn't be seamless any more.
There's one final reason, namely that I wanted to design git to just track
_contents_. So the design philosophy is very much against tracking exactly
which repository something has been in, since that has nothing to do with
the deeper issue of what you are actually tracking.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-27 22:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-26 23:23 git and time Matthew L Foster
2006-09-26 23:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-26 23:32 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-26 23:33 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 0:27 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 1:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 8:42 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 15:28 ` Jeff King
2006-09-27 14:09 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 14:29 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-27 18:01 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 20:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 21:16 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 21:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 22:28 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-09-27 23:02 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 23:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 0:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 0:21 ` Jeff King
2006-09-28 0:23 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 1:39 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 7:52 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-29 14:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-29 14:21 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 1:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:48 ` Matthew L Foster
[not found] ` <20060927220404.8e216945.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 2:04 ` Sean
2006-09-28 2:49 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:43 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060927230330.90c63d23.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-28 3:03 ` Sean
2006-09-28 3:26 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 13:17 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 14:50 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 15:29 ` Rogan Dawes
2006-09-28 16:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 17:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 17:33 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 17:42 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 19:43 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 19:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 22:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-09-28 22:55 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 8:16 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-09-28 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 19:18 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 0:27 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-29 1:44 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-29 2:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 20:36 ` Robin Rosenberg
2006-09-28 20:46 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:12 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:25 ` A Large Angry SCM
2006-09-28 22:31 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 22:45 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 3:07 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 3:39 ` Tom Prince
2006-09-28 3:47 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-28 4:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 1:36 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-28 2:29 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 2:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 4:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-28 14:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-09-28 16:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-29 22:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 4:50 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-30 7:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-30 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-30 23:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 0:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-01 0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-01 8:37 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-02 23:50 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-29 20:42 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 21:56 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 22:46 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-27 22:57 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 18:53 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-27 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-27 18:00 ` Edgar Toernig
2006-09-27 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-29 20:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-03 0:01 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-09-27 3:34 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060926234309.b16aa44e.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 3:43 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:50 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060927010437.5fa57ed0.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 5:04 ` Sean
2006-09-27 5:52 ` Jeff King
[not found] ` <20060927021529.69fd7274.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 6:15 ` Sean
2006-09-27 4:28 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 4:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 10:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 15:11 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-09-27 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 21:36 ` Shawn Pearce
[not found] ` <20060927002745. 15344.qmail@web51005.mail.yahoo.com>
2006-09-27 0:56 ` Sean
[not found] ` <20060926205632.5d487cc9.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 0:47 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926210721.36eb509d.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:07 ` Sean
2006-09-27 1:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-09-27 1:31 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <20060926215836.f4a25297.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 1:58 ` Sean
2006-09-27 2:31 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20060926224133.714337eb.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-27 2:41 ` Sean
2006-09-29 17:37 ` Jan Harkes
[not found] ` <20060929134616.7966d18c.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-29 17:46 ` Sean
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-28 0:49 apodtele
2006-09-28 16:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-28 16:50 apodtele
[not found] <20060928170110.GD3650@socrates.priv>
2006-09-28 17:30 ` Matthew L Foster
2006-09-28 18:21 apodtele
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