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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>, Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru>,
	Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: heads-up: git-index-pack in "next" is broken
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:56:51 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610180752500.3962@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610172242430.17253@alien.or.mcafeemobile.com>



On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> 
> Ehm, I think there's a little bit of confusion. The incorrect golden ratio 
> prime selection for 64 bits machines was coalescing hash indexes into a 
> very limited number of buckets, hence creating very bad performance on diff 
> operations. The result of the diff would have been exacly the same, just 
> coming out after the time for a cup of coffee and a croissant ;)

But my point is, you would have been better off _without_ an algorithm 
that cared about the word-size at all, or with just using "uint32_t".

See? Yes, a "unsigned long" has more bits for hashing on a 64-bit 
architecture. But that's totally the wrong way of thinking about it. YOU 
DO NOT WANT MORE BITS! You want the same damn answer regardless of 
architecture!

A diff algorithm that gives different answers on a 32-bit LE architecture 
than on a 64-bit BE architecture is BROKEN. If I run on x86-64, I want the 
same answers I got on x86-32, and the same ones I get on ppc32. Anything 
else is SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE!

So the whole idea that you should have used 64-bit values was broken, 
broken, broken. You should never have had anything that cared, because 
anything that cares is by definition buggy.

This is why we should use the _low_ bits. Never the high bits.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-18 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-17  4:55 heads-up: git-index-pack in "next" is broken Junio C Hamano
2006-10-17 15:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 16:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-17 17:00     ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 18:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-17 18:47         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 19:36           ` Sergey Vlasov
2006-10-17 20:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-17 20:25               ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 20:23             ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 20:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-17 21:21                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 21:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18  0:20                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-18  0:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18  2:08                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-18  3:12                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18  6:09                             ` Davide Libenzi
2006-10-18 14:56                               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-10-18 16:17                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-10-18 16:52                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18 21:21                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2006-10-18 21:48                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-18 22:34                                         ` Davide Libenzi
2006-10-18  1:30                       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-18  2:23                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-18  4:16                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-18  5:07                             ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-18 10:00                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-10-18 13:13                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-18 13:02                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-10-17 21:54                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-10-18  1:38                   ` Nicolas Pitre

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