From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.176.0/21 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [PATCH] Allow hand-editing of patches before sending Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:48:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <20061101090046.1107.81105.stgit@localhost> <20061102113631.GA30507@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <20061103095859.GC16721@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <20061103100142.GD16721@diana.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <454B30E4.8000909@shadowen.org> <454B4C43.2040607@shadowen.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Karl_Hasselstr=F6m?= , Catalin Marinas , git@vger.kernel.org Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git@gmane.org In-Reply-To: <454B4C43.2040607@shadowen.org> X-MIMEDefang-Filter: osdl$Revision: 1.155 $ X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gg46M-0006zH-QX for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:49:17 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753463AbWKCStH (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:49:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753460AbWKCStG (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:49:06 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:58507 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753461AbWKCStE (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:49:04 -0500 Received: from shell0.pdx.osdl.net (fw.osdl.org [65.172.181.6]) by smtp.osdl.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id kA3ImooZ026163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:48:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (shell0.pdx.osdl.net [10.9.0.31]) by shell0.pdx.osdl.net (8.13.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id kA3ImnoD029241; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:48:50 -0800 To: Andy Whitcroft Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Andy Whitcroft wrote: > > Heh, well the copy thunderbird wrote directly to my mailbox is also > 8bit. And thinking about it I've seen talk of MTA's not supporting 8bit > xfers between themselves, so thats probabally when it gets switched. If your ISP mailer doesn't answer with "8BITMIME" to your EHLO, your mail client is supposed to downgrade to a 7-bit format (or the same thing can happen anywhere in between on one of the other hops). Of course, that would be a really old and broken mailer, and if you find one of those at the ISP you use, you should probably switch ISPs. Some other mailers have other issues, and qmail for example is apparently totally broken (it accepts 8-bit input, but cannot forward it properly to somebody who wants it converted to 7-bit). And some of us use "fetchmail" and ask it do do mimedecode for us, so that even if it arrived as 7-bit crud, we don't have to see it. So the fact that some people see it as 8-bit can be because the hops to them didn't involve a broken remailer, but it could also be because something in between (like fetchmail) tries to fix it up after the fact. That said: it tends to be unusual to see true 7-bit mailer setups these days. So the most _likely_ cause of unnecessary 7-bit QP crud is not in fact a 7-bit mailserver, but usually just the mail client that is just lazy and just sends out everything as 7-bit because it's too bothersome to even look at whether the mail server supports 8-bit data. Check your Thunderbird settings - it's quite possible that there's a flag there somewhere to turn on 8-bit mail transfers.