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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Liu Yubao <yubao.liu@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit [Was: Re: how to show log for only one branch]
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:48:05 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611060734490.25218@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <454F31D7.1030202@gmail.com>



On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Liu Yubao wrote:
> 
> Then, what bad *logical* problem will happen if a merging that is really a
> fast forwarding creates a new commit?

You MUST NOT do that.

If a fast-forward were to do a "merge commit", you'd never get into the 
situation where two people merging each other would really ever get a 
stable result. They'd just keep doing merge commits on top of each other.

Git tracks history, not "your view of history". Trying to track "your 
view" is fundamentally wrong, because "your wiew" automatically means that 
the project history would not be distributed any more - it would be 
centralized around what _you_ think happened. That is not a sensible thing 
to have in a distributed system.

For example, the way to break the "infinite merges" problem above is to 
say that _you_ would be special, and you would do a "fast-forward commit", 
and the other side would always just fast-forward without a commit. But 
that is very fundamentally against the whole point of being distributed. 
Now you're special.

In fact, even for "you", it would be horrible - because you personally 
might have 5 different repositories on five different machines. You'd have 
to select _which_ machine you want to track. That's simply insane. It's a 
totally broken model. (You can even get the same situation with just _one_ 
repository, by just having five different branches - you have to decide 
which one is the "main" branch).

Besides, doing an empty commit like that ("I fast forwarded") literally 
doesn't add any true history information. It literally views history not 
as history of the _project_, but as the history of just one of the 
repositories. And that's wrong.

So just get used to it. You MUST NOT do what you want to do. It's stupid.

If you want to track the history of one particular local branch, use the 
"reflog" thing. It allows you to see what one of your local branches 
contained at any particular time.

See

	[core]
		logAllRefUpdates = true

documentation in "man git-update-refs" (and maybe somebody can write more 
about it?)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-06 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-06  3:41 how to show log for only one branch Liu Yubao
2006-11-06  6:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-06 10:41   ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-06 18:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-07  2:21       ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07  8:21         ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-06 13:00   ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit [Was: Re: how to show log for only one branch] Liu Yubao
2006-11-06 13:39     ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit Rocco Rutte
2006-11-07  3:42       ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-06 13:43     ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit [Was: Re: how to show log for only one branch] Andreas Ericsson
2006-11-07  3:26       ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07  9:30         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-07 12:05           ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07 12:17             ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-06 15:48     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-11-06 16:03       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-11-06 17:48       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-07  7:59         ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07 17:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-07 18:23           ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit Junio C Hamano
2006-11-07 11:46         ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit [Was: Re: how to show log for only one branch] Eran Tromer
2006-11-07  7:27       ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07  9:46         ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-07 12:08           ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07 13:15             ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-07 16:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-07 16:39           ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-07 21:37           ` If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit Junio C Hamano
2006-11-07 22:02             ` Planned new release of git [was: Re: If merging that is really fast forwarding creates new commit] Jakub Narebski
2006-11-07 23:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-07 23:36                 ` Planned new release of git Junio C Hamano
2006-11-07 23:19               ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-06 15:25 ` how to show log for only one branch Jakub Narebski
2006-11-07  3:47   ` Liu Yubao
2006-11-07  8:08     ` Jakub Narebski

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