From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>,
Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>,
Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a".
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:13:52 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611300903080.3513@woody.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061130164046.GB17715@thunk.org>
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, Theodore Tso wrote:
>
> But then why is the default for "git commit" to commit the index, if
> the index is almost == HEAD? And why is git-update-index given such
> prominence in the documentation?
The default is: commit everything that you ask for to be committed.
If you haven't marked anything to be committed (which you can do with "git
add" too, or with simply being in the middle of a merge, or by having done
something like "git pull -n" or similar that does everything _but_
commit), then git commit will say "nothing to do".
It has NOTHING to do with the index per se.
I still don't understand why people are so hung up about the index.
So ignore the index entirely, and follow along with me:
"git commit" with no parameters simply DOES NOT DO ANYTHING YOU
HAVEN'T ALREADY ASKED YOU TO DO.
It's that simple. It's that logical. Ignore the index. Ignore everything
else. Just read that simple, straightforward, and logical sentence on its
own. It all makes sense.
Then, the trivial follow-up is:
If you want to commit _all_ dirty files, use "git commit -a".
Otherwise, name the files or subdirectories you want to commit
explicitly.
Again: THIS JUST MAKES SENSE.
Asking for "-a" to be the default behaviour is BAD.
For example, in "git commit --amend", it's _important_ that "-a" not be
the default, because you may well want to just amend the commit _message_.
No files updated AT ALL. You may have other state that is still dirty
(because you didn't ask it to be committed last time), and they should NOT
be committed, because the simple rule is:
"git commit" with no parameters simply DOES NOT DO ANYTHING YOU
HAVEN'T ALREADY ASKED YOU TO DO.
Repeat the above sentence again. IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
So maybe the documentation shouldn't mention the "index" at all, because
it apparently scares and confuses people. But the fact is, the
documentation started out as _technical_ documentation, that explains the
_technical_ side of git. We don't have lots of "end-user" docs.
But the lack of such end-user documentation should not cause idiotic
threads like this, where people blame "the index".
Yeah, so the docs are too scary. But none of this has anything to do with
"the index". It's all logical on its own, and the default behaviour to not
commit anything you haven't asked to be committed is the right one.
Make "git commit" just say "You didn't say what you wanted to commit.
Maybe you meant 'git commit -a'" if there's nothing to commit. How hard
can that be? But don't change semantics now, and please DO NOT change them
to something _worse_ than what we have now (and automatically adding the
"-a" only in _certain_ circumstances is definitely much worse imnsho)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-30 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-27 21:31 [PATCH/RFC] "init-db" can really be just "init" Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-27 22:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-27 22:40 ` Hyphens and hiding core commands (was: "init-db" can really be just "init") Carl Worth
2006-11-27 23:59 ` Hyphens and hiding core commands Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 0:23 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-28 0:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 1:35 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-28 2:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 5:40 ` Theodore Tso
2006-11-28 9:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 7:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-28 6:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] Making "git commit" to mean "git commit -a" Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 10:26 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-28 13:00 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2006-11-28 13:23 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-28 18:18 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-29 3:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 4:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-29 7:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 18:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-29 18:18 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-29 19:12 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-29 19:30 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-29 18:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 19:09 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-29 20:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-29 20:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-29 21:50 ` xdl_merge(), was " Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 5:24 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-29 23:37 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-29 23:53 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 1:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 1:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 1:58 ` Steven Grimm
2006-11-30 2:04 ` Sam Vilain
2006-11-30 2:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 2:11 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 10:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 11:09 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-11-30 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 16:40 ` Theodore Tso
2006-11-30 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-11-30 17:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 18:38 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 18:47 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 19:04 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 8:44 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-12-01 9:31 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2006-11-30 18:51 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 20:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 21:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 21:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 21:37 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 21:41 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-11-30 21:50 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 21:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 22:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 22:07 ` Josef Weidendorfer
2006-11-30 22:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 22:37 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-12-01 8:34 ` Andy Parkins
2006-12-01 23:33 ` Alan Chandler
2006-11-30 21:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 22:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 23:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-11-30 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 0:13 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 1:10 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 1:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 2:08 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-01 3:40 ` Carl Worth
2006-12-01 3:52 ` Michael K. Edwards
2006-12-01 0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4. 64.0611301520370.3513@woody.osdl.org>
2006-12-01 0:06 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-01 1:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-12-01 8:59 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-12-01 23:36 ` Alan Chandler
[not found] ` <7vac28h898.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
2006-11-30 22:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2006-11-30 22:55 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-30 21:33 ` Robert Shearman
2006-11-30 21:41 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-12-01 18:27 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-12-02 7:48 ` Marco Costalba
2006-11-30 18:09 ` Carl Worth
2006-11-30 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-30 0:52 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-11-30 12:23 ` Salikh Zakirov
2006-11-30 13:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 15:15 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-30 15:50 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2006-11-30 16:03 ` Seth Falcon
2006-11-30 16:05 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-30 17:13 ` Andy Whitcroft
2006-11-28 7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] git-commit: prepare to make '-a' behaviour the default Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 7:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] git-commit: make '-a' " Junio C Hamano
2006-11-28 9:09 ` Jakub Narebski
2006-11-27 23:36 ` [PATCH/RFC] "init-db" can really be just "init" Johannes Schindelin
2006-11-28 10:45 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
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