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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] prune: --expire=time
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:23:29 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0701211813410.14248@woody.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vwt3fx1am.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>



On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
> This case does not need any locking, as blobs reachable from
> index are considered as "reachable" for the purpose of pruning.

Well, strictly speaking, there's a race there. The new index gets written 
out _after_ the blob has been created. Also, in many cases, we end up 
using completely temporary indexes ("git commit filename") that "git 
prune" doesn't know or understand.

All of which is really nothing new. "git prune" has always been dangerous. 
You cannot, and must not, run it concurrently with other git operations.

Also, in the absense of undo operations, there is really nothing to ever 
prune. Of course, the git.git archive itself has effectively taughth 
people bad habits, since "pu" ends up continually rebasing itself. 

However, now that rebasing ends up being visible in the branch reflog, 
we're back to the "normally nothing to ever prune" situation, and as such, 
the only object pruning that _should_ take place is basically as part of 
"git repack -a -d" (which unlike a prune is actually safe, since it only 
prunes objects that are reachable from a pack).

So to recap: "git prune" simply isn't a safe thing to do. Don't do it 
without thinking. I'm not at all sure it's a good idea that "git gc" does 
it for you, since it just encourages mindless pruning that probably 
shouldn't happen in the first place.

Needing to prune is generally to be taken as a sign of something being 
wrong.

(And yeah, the grace period makes it "safe". Assuming everybody involved 
has even half-way reliable clocks. So IN PRACTICE it is all fine, and I 
doubt you can lose anything except by really doing something insane. If 
you want to kill your archive, it's easier to do "rm .git/objects/*/*a*" 
than it is to try to do it with strange "git prune" setups, but still..)

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-22  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-18 17:18 [PATCH] prune-packed: new option --min-age=N Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-18 17:24 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-18 17:42   ` Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-18 17:51     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-18 22:29       ` [RFC] prune: --expire=seconds Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-18 22:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-19  3:44           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-19 10:49             ` [PATCH] prune: --expire=time Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-19 15:41               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-01-19 19:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-20 11:18                 ` Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-21  6:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-21  7:53                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-21 10:37                     ` Matthias Lederhofer
2007-01-21 11:17                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-21 22:01                         ` Jeff King
2007-01-22  1:38                           ` Steven Grimm
2007-01-22  1:52                             ` Jeff King
2007-01-22  2:06                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-22  2:23                                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-01-22  2:40                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-22  2:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-22  5:17                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-22  6:26                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-01-22  6:57                                           ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-01-22  7:12                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-01-22  9:32                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-01-22  3:26                                     ` [PATCH] v1.5.0.txt: update description of git-gc Jeff King
2007-01-22  2:03                             ` [PATCH] prune: --expire=time Junio C Hamano
2007-01-20 12:06                 ` Simon 'corecode' Schubert

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