From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Julian Phillips <julian@quantumfyre.co.uk>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Morten Welinder <mwelinder@gmail.com>,
Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703181012520.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703180517360.24626@beast.quantumfyre.co.uk>
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Julian Phillips wrote:
>
> (This is a rather unrealistic repository consisting of a long series of
> commits of new binary files, but I don't have access to the repository that is
> being approximated until I get back to work on Monday ...)
This is a *horrible* test repo.
Is this actually really trying to approximate anything you work with? If
so, please check whether you have cyanide or some other effective poison
to kill all your cow-orkers - it's really doing them a favor - and then do
the honorable thing yourself? Use something especially painful on whoever
came up with the idea to track 25000 files in a single directory.
I'll see what the profile is, but even without the repo full generated
yet, I can already tell you that you should *not* put tens of thousands of
files in a single directory like this.
It's not only usually horribly bad quite independently of any SCM issues
(ie most filesystems will have some bad performance behaviour with things
like this - if only because "readdir()" will inevitably be slow).
And for git it means that you lose all ability to efficiently prune away
the parts of the tree that you don't care about. git will always end up
working with a full linear filemanifest instead of a nice collection of
recursive trees, and a lot of the nice tree-walking optimizations that git
has will just end up being no-ops: each tree is always one *huge*
manifest.
So it's not that git cannot handle it, it's that a lot of the nice things
that make git really efficient simply won't trigger for your repository.
In short: avoiding tens of thousands of files in a single directory is
*always* a good idea. With or without git.
(Again, SCM's that are really just "one file at a time" like CVS,
won't care as much. They never really track all files anyway, so while
they are limited by potential filesystem performance bottlenecks, they
won't have the fundamental issue of tracking 25,000 files..)
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-18 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-16 1:04 cleaner/better zlib sources? Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 1:10 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-16 1:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-16 1:14 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-16 1:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 1:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 2:43 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-16 2:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 3:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-16 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 16:24 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-16 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 19:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-17 0:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 1:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 3:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-17 5:19 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-17 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 19:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] Make trivial wrapper functions around delta base generation and freeing Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 22:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-17 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 1:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-18 7:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-17 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-17 23:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-17 23:52 ` Jon Smirl
2007-03-18 1:14 ` Morten Welinder
2007-03-18 1:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 1:38 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-18 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 2:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-18 2:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 3:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-18 3:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 5:30 ` Julian Phillips
2007-03-18 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-03-18 10:53 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-03-18 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 18:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-03-18 21:25 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-19 13:16 ` David Brodsky
2007-03-20 6:35 ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-03-20 9:13 ` David Brodsky
2007-03-21 2:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-21 2:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-18 3:06 ` [PATCH 3/2] Avoid unnecessary strlen() calls Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 9:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-18 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 21:38 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-18 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 3:05 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-03-20 3:29 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-20 3:40 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-20 4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 4:18 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-20 4:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 5:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-20 3:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-20 4:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-20 4:39 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-20 4:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 1:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] Implement a simple delta_base cache Linus Torvalds
2007-03-18 6:28 ` Avi Kivity
2007-03-17 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 16:35 ` cleaner/better zlib sources? Jeff Garzik
2007-03-16 16:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-16 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 17:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-16 23:22 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-03-16 17:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-16 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 18:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-03-16 1:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-03-16 2:06 ` Davide Libenzi
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