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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add keyword unexpansion support to convert.c
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704171107510.5473@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704171803.58940.andyparkins@gmail.com>



On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Andy Parkins wrote:
> 
> Why on earth would it not apply?  It's being applied using git-apply, 
> which will unexpand the keywords as it goes - as I keep saying.

So you will never work with anybody outside of git?

What about tar-files when you export the tree? Should they have the 
expanded version? 

> You keep saying these sweepingly general things.  It can be made to 
> work.

No, it CANNOT.

Trust me. There's NO WAY IN HELL it will "work" in any other sense than 
"limp along and not be usable".

Yes, you can make it "work" if you:

 - make sure that you never _ever_ leave the git environment

   But why do you want keyword expansion then? The whole point is if you 
   have other tools than the git tools that look at a file. Even your svg 
   example was literally about having non-git tools work with the data. 
   What if you ever email the file to somebody else? 

 - you make all git tools explicitly always strip them.

   Again, what's the point again? You add keyword expansion, and then the 
   only tools that you really allow to touch it (except your "print it 
   out" example) will have to remove the keyword expansion just to work.

That's not "work". That's just stupid. Yes, you can make your "print it 
out" example work, but as alreadyt mentioned, you could have done that 
some other way, with a simple makefile rule, quite independently (and much 
better) than the SCM ever did.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-17 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-17  9:41 [PATCH 2/2] Add keyword unexpansion support to convert.c Andy Parkins
     [not found] ` <200704171803.58940.an dyparkins@gmail.com>
2007-04-17 10:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-17 11:35   ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 15:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 17:03       ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 18:12         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-04-17 19:12           ` Andy Parkins
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD. 0.98.0704171530220.4504@xanadu.home>
2007-04-17 19:41             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-17 19:45               ` David Lang
     [not found]                 ` <alpin e.LFD.0.98.0704171624190.4504@xanadu.home>
2007-04-17 20:29                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-17 20:05                   ` David Lang
2007-04-17 21:16                     ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                       ` <7vy7k qlj5r.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
2007-04-17 20:53                       ` David Lang
2007-04-17 21:52                         ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 22:40                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18  2:39                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-18  5:04                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18 14:56                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-18 11:14                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-18 15:10                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-19  8:19                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-21  0:42                         ` David Lang
2007-04-21  1:54                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-21  2:06                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-21 23:31                             ` David Lang
2007-04-18  6:24                       ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-18 15:02                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 15:34                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-18 15:38                           ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-18 15:59                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-18 16:09                               ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-18 17:58                               ` Alon Ziv
2007-04-17 19:54             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 20:46               ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 20:52                 ` [PATCH] Add keyword collapse " Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 21:10                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add keyword unexpansion " Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 21:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18 11:11                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-20 11:32                 ` Nikolai Weibull
2007-04-17 21:18             ` Martin Langhoff
2007-04-17 21:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-20  0:30     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-04-21  0:47       ` David Lang
2007-04-17 15:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 10:41 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-04-17 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 17:10   ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-17 17:18   ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-17 18:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-17 20:27       ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-17 23:56       ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-18  0:02         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18  0:26           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-18  1:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18  1:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18  1:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-18  1:06           ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-18  1:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18  1:42               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-18  2:53                 ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-18  4:15           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-04-18 11:32           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-04-18  2:50         ` Martin Langhoff
2007-04-18 10:06         ` David Kågedal
2007-04-18 11:08           ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-17 21:00 ` Matthieu Moy

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