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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	kha@treskal.com, barkalow@iabervon.org, junio@cox.net,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a birdview-on-the-source-code section to the user manual
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:50:41 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705091447110.4167@racer.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070509123205.GN4489@pasky.or.cz>

Hi,

On Wed, 9 May 2007, Petr Baudis wrote:

> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:19:03PM CEST, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > diff --git a/Documentation/user-manual.txt b/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > index 2d58bb0..55934db 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/user-manual.txt
> > @@ -3197,7 +3197,15 @@ basically _the_ header file which is included by _all_ of Git's C sources.
> >  If you grasp the ideas in that initial commit (it is really small and you 
> >  can get into it really fast, and it will help you recognize things in the 
> >  much larger code base we have now), you should go on skimming `cache.h`, 
> > -`object.h` and `commit.h`.
> > +`object.h` and `commit.h` in the current version.
> > +
> > +In the early days, Git (in the tradition of UNIX) was a bunch of programs 
> > +which were extremely simple, and which you used in scripts, piping the 
> > +output of one into another. This turned out to be good for initial 
> > +development, since it was easier to test new things.  However, recently 
> > +many of these parts have become builtins, and some of the core has been 
> > +"libified", i.e. put into libgit.a for performance, portability reasons, 
> > +and to avoid code duplication.
> > 
> >  By now, you know what the index is (and find the corresponding data 
> >  structures in `cache.h`), and that there are just a couple of object types 
> 
> I disagree, especially with the past tense of the first half of the
> paragraph. Git is _still_ a bunch of programs you use in scripts, piping
> the output of one into another. Another point is that
> implementation-wise many of the code is currently shared in an internal
> library, etc.

No. Many parts are _not_ simple programs piped into each other. git-log, 
git-show, git-mv come to mind. That is why I wrote "many" and not "all".

> I'd be a bit careful to talk about libgit.a so leisurely since it might 
> give the reader an impression that there really _is_ "the git library", 
> with API and everything, that they can use externally. Of course you 
> need to mention libgit.a, but I'd also mention that it is so far meant 
> only for internal git's use and has no solidified API.

Frankly, this is just a birdview thing. If you want to go and make a 
hacker's manual, go ahead!

> > @@ -3300,8 +3321,10 @@ Two things are interesting here:
> >  
> >  - the variable `sha1` in the function signature of `get_sha1()` is `unsigned 
> >    char *`, but is actually expected to be a pointer to `unsigned 
> > -  char[20]`.  This variable will contain the big endian version of the 
> > -  40-character hex string representation of the SHA-1.
> > +  char[20]`.  This variable will contain the 160-bit SHA-1 of the given 
> > +  commit.  Note that whenever a SHA-1 is passed as "unsigned char *", it 
> > +  is the binary representation (big-endian), as opposed to the ASCII 
> > +  representation in hex characters, which is passed as "char *".
> >  
> >  You will see both of these things throughout the code.
> 
> To be honest, I wouldn't even be *thinking* about the endianity of SHA-1
> octet representation (you don't usually really deal with the hash as
> with a number, so expecting to have it in native endianity is not very
> natural; you just deal with it as with a data blob) and the
> "(big-endian)" would only confuse me and get me thinking about "huh, do
> they swap the bytes, or wait, they don't, ...?!".
> 
> But that's maybe just me.

But then, maybe it is just me? I got it completely wrong the first time, 
fully expecting the calculations to be carried out in host endianness for 
performance reasons.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-08 15:10 [PATCH] Add a birdview-on-the-source-code section to the user manual Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-08 21:01 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-08 21:07   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-08 21:31     ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-08 23:10       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-08 23:22         ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09  4:54         ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-05-09  6:31           ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09  9:38           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 10:43             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09  3:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-09  4:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-09  5:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-09  9:33       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 17:36       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-09  6:48   ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09  9:27   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 12:19   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 12:32     ` Petr Baudis
2007-05-09 12:50       ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2007-05-09 16:18         ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-05-09 16:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 17:07             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-09 20:15               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-09 20:32                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-09 20:45                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-05-09 22:23                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-10 20:01                     ` Karl Hasselström
2007-05-09 13:18     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-10  4:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-10 10:36         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-05-10 20:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-05-10 21:14             ` Karl Hasselström

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