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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Start deprecating "git-command" in favor of "git command"
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 14:48:19 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707011313580.4438@racer.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070701082202.GB6093@coredump.intra.peff.net>

Hi,

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Jeff King wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:17:10PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
> > So I am somewhat negative on this, unless there is a way for
> > scripts to say "Even though I say 'git foo', I do mean 'git foo'
> > not whatever the user has aliased".
> 
> I had submitted GIT_NOALIAS=1 patches a while back, but IIRC, the
> consensus was that it was a bit too ugly and fragile in concept.

I think it is not GIT_NOALIAS that is ugly and fragile in concept. It is 
the whole notion that you can define default parameters via aliases that 
is ugly and fragile.

The possibility to say

	git config alias.log '!rm -rf /home/peff'

on somebody _else's_ machine makes me go shudder.

And there's another thing. On some machines, rm is aliased to 'rm -i'. 
That's good, right? NO! It _forces_ me to either look at the aliases on 
that particular box, or alternatively (which is what I actually do), 
specify _exactly_ what I want (I never do "rm", I always do "rm -i" or "rm 
-f", or "git rm"). That's because the default behaviour is 
_different_ on _different_ boxes. Repeat after me: consistency is good, 
inconsistency is bad.

So, yes, I am glad we have the option of using GIT_NOALIAS (which I forgot 
until jasam had this idea on IRC, independently), but no, I'd like not to 
use it. Not because GIT_NOALIAS is ugly, but because individual 
overriding default behaviours via peculiar aliases is.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-01 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-30 18:49 Start deprecating "git-command" in favor of "git command" Linus Torvalds
2007-06-30 19:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-30 19:43   ` Yann Dirson
2007-07-01  2:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-01  3:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-01  3:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-01 12:12           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-07-01 18:16             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-03  2:56           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-07-03  3:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-30 19:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-30 20:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-06-30 20:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-07-01  8:22   ` Jeff King
2007-07-01 13:48     ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2007-07-01 21:11       ` Josh Triplett
2007-06-30 20:34 ` walt
2007-06-30 21:37   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-06-30 22:40     ` walt
2007-07-01 13:47     ` Yann Dirson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-01  0:45 linux
2007-07-01  1:48 ` eschvoca
2007-07-01  3:00   ` Theodore Tso

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