From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:36:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: References: <8fe92b430710081355i7d3dbaa2q9a8939b55d7ca7dc@mail.gmail.com> <8fe92b430710121508g13917080mac156250abfccf20@mail.gmail.com> <853awepyz6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20071013202713.GA2467@fieldses.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Jakub Narebski , git@vger.kernel.org To: "J. Bruce Fields" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Oct 14 02:37:11 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IgrTi-0001vR-8q for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:37:10 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753769AbXJNAg7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:36:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753808AbXJNAg6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:36:58 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:58162 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1753718AbXJNAg6 (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:36:58 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2007 00:36:56 -0000 Received: from wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de (EHLO openvpn-client) [132.187.25.13] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 14 Oct 2007 02:36:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1490710 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DbjsQp7JD0h/fRmeTlrM1ZGhQqt4BMfeAot3oLo gKxkJcHxGxXK66 X-X-Sender: gene099@racer.site In-Reply-To: <20071013202713.GA2467@fieldses.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Hi, On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 09:59:41PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > > ...survey quote: > > >> Figure out why people find git hard to learn and eliminate those > > >> barriers to entry. Make git more task-oriented rather than > > >> data-model-oriented the way it is now. > > > > > > Frankly, expectations like these make me want to bang somebody's > > > head on the wall. > > > > And you wonder that people are unwilling to ask for things on the > > list? That is utter rubbish. > Well, he does have a point that they could have been more specific. > > But, yes, "I wish we could get people to be more specific" might be the > better way to put it. Yes, there are politer ways to phrase it. My main point is -- and always was -- that I'd like people to realise how much it depends on _them_ if (and when) their wishes come true. Ciao, Dscho