From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johannes Schindelin Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:06:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: References: <8fe92b430710081355i7d3dbaa2q9a8939b55d7ca7dc@mail.gmail.com> <8fe92b430710121508g13917080mac156250abfccf20@mail.gmail.com> <853awepyz6.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20071013202713.GA2467@fieldses.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" , Jakub Narebski , git@vger.kernel.org To: Linus Torvalds X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Oct 14 04:07:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Igssf-0004HC-1v for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:07:01 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754410AbXJNCGr (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:06:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754714AbXJNCGr (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:06:47 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:52442 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1754327AbXJNCGq (ORCPT ); Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:06:46 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2007 02:06:44 -0000 Received: from wbgn013.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de (EHLO openvpn-client) [132.187.25.13] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 14 Oct 2007 04:06:44 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1490710 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+jlNQrI2SjKK3fUM5jWmUd57oaZZp3Cimz3yoBCJ D1MKKBXhDOOAqp X-X-Sender: gene099@racer.site In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: Hi, On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > > My main point is -- and always was -- that I'd like people to realise > > how much it depends on _them_ if (and when) their wishes come true. > > Dscho, that's just not fair. > > The fact is, stating what you wish for *is* taking an action. Starting > to complain about people stating their wishes (which you have done > several times) is simply unreasonable. Well, maybe I overreacted. > You don't have to *do* what they wish for, but I really wish you stopped > complaining about people bringing up their hopes for improvement. Fair enough, I'll shut up about these issues. At least as long as I can hold my breath ;-) > Complain about it when somebody asks for something *stupid*. Explain why > it would be wrong to do something like that. But don't complain about > people having wish-lists, even if those people may not work on them. > > Not everybody is a "doer". It's important to get input from people who are > just plain users, or hope to be. A pity, but you're probably right. Ciao, Dscho