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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Wincent Colaiuta <win@wincent.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re-re-re-fix common tail optimization
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:57:29 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0712171151490.9446@racer.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36E62F9B-26FF-4DC0-99B8-D6DC2B960E67@wincent.com>

Hi,

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:

> El 17/12/2007, a las 11:39, Johannes Schindelin escribi?:
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
> > 
> > > El 16/12/2007, a las 23:29, Jeff King escribi?:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:23:27PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > Aren't we using "git diff" for the second diff there nowadays?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some people seem to think that is a good idea, but I generally 
> > > > > do not like using "git diff" between expect and actual (both 
> > > > > untracked) inside tests.  The last "diff" is about validating 
> > > > > what git does and using "git diff" there would make the test 
> > > > > meaningless when "git diff" itself is broken.
> > > > 
> > > > I think that is a valid concern. But ISTR that were some issues 
> > > > with using GNU diff. Commit 5bd74506 mentions getting rid of the 
> > > > dependency in all existing tests, but gives no reason.
> > > 
> > > I'd say it's safe and sensible to use "git diff" in all tests 
> > > *except* for tests of "git diff" itself.
> > 
> > To the contrary.  It has to test "git diff", so it must use "git 
> > diff".
> 
> Obviously, you can only test "git diff" by actually running it.

Sorry, I should have made clear that I meant this as funny:

	;-)

> > As for the reference output: we include the expected diffs as texts, 
> > and therefore do not really have to rely on having GNU diff installed.
> > 
> > Besides, we cannot even test the goodies like "rename from" by 
> > comparing to GNU diff's output.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. That's not what I was proposing at 
> all. I was talking about this kind of example:
> 
> > + git diff -U0 | sed -e "/^index/d" -e "s/$z2047/Z/g" >actual &&
> > + diff -u expect actual
> 
> First line uses "git diff", if the second line uses "git diff" as well 
> and "git diff" happens to be broken then you're using a broken tool to 
> test a broken tool, as Junio already pointed out.

Hmm.  There is some chicken-and-egg problem here (I read the thread, but 
did not really see a problem, as I assumed that _other_ tests would assure 
that "git diff --no-index" works as expected).

But as at least one released version of GNU diff has a pretty serious bug, 
I would rather not rely too much on diff.  (BTW this was the reason I 
wanted --no-index so badly.)

So yeah, the second "diff" cannot be "git diff".  Maybe "cmp", but not 
"git diff".

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-17 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-15 11:16 trim_common_tail bug? Jeff King
2007-12-15 15:51 ` Jeff King
2007-12-15 17:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-15 20:02     ` Jeff King
2007-12-16  7:06       ` Jeff King
2007-12-16 19:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-16 21:16           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-16 21:21             ` Jeff King
2007-12-16 21:49               ` [PATCH] Re-re-re-fix common tail optimization Junio C Hamano
2007-12-16 22:15                 ` Jeff King
2007-12-16 22:23                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-16 22:28                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-16 22:29                     ` Jeff King
2007-12-17  8:42                       ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-17 10:39                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-17 10:59                           ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-17 11:57                             ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2007-12-17 12:08                               ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-17 12:12                                 ` Jeff King
2007-12-17 12:20                                 ` Johannes Sixt
2007-12-17 12:51                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-17 17:58                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-17 18:05                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-19 14:18                 ` Charles Bailey
2007-12-19 14:27                   ` Jeff King
2007-12-19 14:37                     ` Charles Bailey
2007-12-20  0:21                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-20  1:38                         ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-12-20  9:23                         ` Charles Bailey
2007-12-20  9:40                           ` Junio C Hamano

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