From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F425C4338F for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC1C60F58 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229693AbhHPQUW (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:20:22 -0400 Received: from cloud.peff.net ([104.130.231.41]:48518 "EHLO cloud.peff.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229556AbhHPQUW (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:20:22 -0400 Received: (qmail 20071 invoked by uid 109); 16 Aug 2021 16:19:50 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO peff.net) (10.0.1.2) by cloud.peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:19:50 +0000 Authentication-Results: cloud.peff.net; auth=none Received: (qmail 15691 invoked by uid 111); 16 Aug 2021 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from coredump.intra.peff.net (HELO sigill.intra.peff.net) (10.0.0.2) by peff.net (qpsmtpd/0.94) with (TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:19:49 -0400 Authentication-Results: peff.net; auth=none Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:19:49 -0400 From: Jeff King To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Junio C Hamano , Ben Goldberg , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: send-email issue Message-ID: References: <24a88faf-5339-8449-80c4-f6085bd1e098@benaaron.dev> <20210813180056.ctzivmakj4bj5apa@nitro.local> <20210816131143.6ifcbpxp6ilo2nv5@nitro.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210816131143.6ifcbpxp6ilo2nv5@nitro.local> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 09:11:43AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > I do not think it is feasible to immediately rename the two choices > > to SSL/TLS vs StartTLS without transition period, but the first > > patch in the three-patch series there to update the documentation > > alone may have helped this case. > > > > We may also want to error out when seeing an unknown option other > > than 'ssl' and 'tls', as the necessary first step to make it > > possible to later safely accept StartTLS as a synonym for 'tls' and > > 'ssl/tls' as a synonym for 'ssl'. > > Is it easier to just add less ambiguous aliases, eventually phasing out old > terminology? > > tls -> starttls > ssl -> smtps > > This way we don't have to change anything, and "smtps" is a valid way to refer > to smtp over ssl (e.g. see /etc/services for 465/tcp). FWIW, those options make quite a bit of sense to me (and I agree the transition to them would be easy). -Peff