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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Carlo Arenas" <carenas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 support
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 23:18:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YZWNumAlsek9Gi22@camp.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZRwpekXlilhOEx4@coredump.intra.peff.net>

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On 2021-11-17 at 03:01:57, Jeff King wrote:
> Yes, but I'm not at all worried about breaking our CI. That's just a
> patch away from fixing. I'm much more worried about confused users
> building from source, because helping them is more difficult to scale.

That's one of the reasons I had proposed the current patch, because it
pukes in a very noticeable way with directives on where to look to
continue.  Just using C99 features means that Git breaks in a very
subtle way where the user compiling may not be familiar with C and may
not know how to fix it otherwise.  For example, my previous employer
ships Git, but many of the folks who are doing the package updates are
not C programmers.

> My thinking was that breaking older compilers was preferable to breaking
> non-gnu ones, because at least old ones go away eventually. But your
> other email makes me wonder if those non-GNU ones may already be
> overriding CFLAGS.

Our only problem platform, as far as I can tell, is RHEL/CentOS 7.  That
uses GCC 4.8, and even Ubuntu 18.04 ships with GCC 7.

> Still, if we can come up with a solution that breaks neither (with some
> light auto-detection or heuristics in the Makefile), that could be the
> best of both worlds.

I can move COMPILER_FEATURES out of config.mak.dev and into Makefile so
that we can make use of it.  We'll need to depend on GCC 6 for this
because we lack a way to distinguish 5.1 (which should work) from 5.0
(which will not).
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Toronto, Ontario, CA

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-17 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-14 21:24 [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 brian m. carlson
2021-11-14 21:24 ` [PATCH 1/1] git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  1:14   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15  1:54     ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  3:16   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-11-16  1:53     ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-22 11:47   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-11-14 21:43 ` [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 brian m. carlson
2021-11-15  7:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-15 22:41   ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-16 19:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-17  1:51       ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-16  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-11-16  2:12   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] git-compat-util: add " brian m. carlson
2021-11-16 12:19     ` Jeff King
2021-11-16 12:54       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-16 14:54         ` Jeff King
2021-11-17  2:53           ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-17  3:01             ` Jeff King
2021-11-17 23:18               ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2021-11-17 23:45                 ` Carlo Arenas
2021-11-18  2:26                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-18 19:10                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-17  8:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-16 19:44       ` Phillip Wood
2021-11-17  1:44       ` brian m. carlson
2021-11-17  2:58         ` Jeff King
2021-11-30 20:43 ` Microsoft's C language policy (was: [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 22:37   ` brian m. carlson
2021-12-01  1:40 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99 support brian m. carlson
2021-12-01  1:40   ` [PATCH v3 1/1] git-compat-util: add " brian m. carlson
2021-12-02 17:38     ` Johannes Schindelin

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