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From: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Hostetler <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff Hostetler <jeffhost@microsoft.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] trace2: increment event format version
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 11:56:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YafTgiNl53FeWH+Q@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <211201.86zgpk9u3t.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On 2021.12.01 16:57, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> [...]
>
> IOW I think this would make more sense as a version bumping criteria:
> 
>     The version should be incremented whenever an existing consumer of
>     trace2 data might want to act differently based on the new data.
> 
>     An exception to this is that any new event types do not merit
>     bumping the version number. E.g. we have a top-level event type
>     "error" now, but might hypothetically add a new "warning" type.
>     Such an addition won't require bumping the version.
> 
>     Likewise adding new mandatory fields to existing events doesn't
>     require bumping the version. E.g. the "error" type has (as of
>     writing) a "fmt" and "msg" field. Let's say a future version adds an
>     "id" (as in unique id for the error) field, such an addition won't
>     require bumping the version.
> 
>     In other words, consumers of the trace2 JSON format are expected to
>     walk the structure and only pick those things that they know about.
>     Any unknown fields the consumer doesn't know about can be safely
>     discarded. This won't apply if the version is bumped, then all bets
>     are off, and the meaning of existing fields may or may not have
>     changed.
> 
>     The idea is to encourage additive changes over changes to existing
>     fields, and to reduce the work in maintaining the consumers of the
>     format.
> 
>     As long as consumers ignore new unknown data they won't need to
>     be updated every time the format changes in any way, only for
>     potentially backwards-incompatible changes.
> 
> Wouldn't this be a saner policy for version bumping? AFAICT the only
> thing you wouldn't be getting that you're getting now is the trivial
> optimization of being able to say cheaply route trace2 payloads based on
> version number alone (but even that is iffy now due to the subjectivity
> of "significant change").

No objections from me, this sounds like a good improvement.

      reply	other threads:[~2021-12-01 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-11 22:34 [PATCH] trace2: increment event format version Josh Steadmon
2021-11-11 23:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-11 23:06   ` Josh Steadmon
2021-11-11 23:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-12 22:33       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-12 23:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-01 15:49         ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-12-01 15:57           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-01 19:56             ` Josh Steadmon [this message]

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