From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/20] t: introduce PERL_TEST_HELPERS prerequisite
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 09:16:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-zkQyRCM3BkovgY@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee5e082f-6ab5-b996-9a0d-f7e5192c01be@gmx.de>
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 08:26:36PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
>
> > In the early days of Git, Perl was used quite prominently throughout the
> > project. This has changed significantly as almost all of the executables
> > we ship nowadays have eventually been rewritten in C. Only a handful of
> > subsystems remain that require Perl:
> >
> > - gitweb, a read-only web interface.
> >
> > - A couple of scripts that allow importing repositories from GNU Arch,
> > CVS and Subversion.
> >
> > - git-send-email(1), which can be used to send mails.
>
> There is also `git request-pull` which is a _shell_ script that runs
> `perl` to parse the output of `ls-remote`, and there is `git
> filter-branch` (which was apparently not yet dropped?) that uses Perl if
> the `--state-branch` option is in use.
Ah, indeed, thanks!
I should probably mark both of these to require Perl in our build
systems so that we have a source of truth what requires Perl and what
doesn't. git-filter-branch(1) also looks somewhat broken because it uses
Perl directly instead of using PERL_PATH.
On the other hand, maybe the better fix would be to just convert tools
to not use Perl at all anymore so that we can eventually get rid of this
dependency altogether. It feels like we're quite close, and many of
these conversions are low-hanging fruit.
> The patch looks good, in particular when fetching the `b4/pks-t-perlless`
> branch from https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git and inspecting 8fc639f99d9f
> manually, as it is a rather large patch that is pretty much unreviewable
> on a mailing list.
>
> Using several write-only `sed` invocations, I identified that there are
> only three hunks that are neither adding a stand-alone `PERL_TEST_HELPERS`
> prereq nor adding a test preamble of this form:
>
> if ! test_have_prereq PERL_TEST_HELPERS
> then
> skip_all='skipping <something>; Perl not available'
> test_done
> fi
Thanks for double checking!
Patrick
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2025-03-20 9:35 [PATCH 00/20] t: drop Perl as a mandatory prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 01/20] t: skip chain lint when PERL_PATH is unset Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 18:36 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 02/20] t: refactor environment sanitization to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-21 9:52 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 03/20] t: adapt character translation helpers " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 04/20] t: adapt `test_copy_bytes()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-21 9:56 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 05/20] t: adapt `test_readlink()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 06/20] t: introduce PERL_TEST_HELPERS prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 18:55 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-24 12:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 07/20] t: adapt existing PERL prerequisites Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 08/20] meson: stop requiring Perl when tests are enabled Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 09/20] Makefile: stop requiring Perl when running tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 10/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl transliteration operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 11/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl substitution operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 16:16 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 12/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl to print data Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 19:33 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-24 12:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 13/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl for textconv scripts Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 19:37 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-24 12:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 16:07 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-25 12:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 16:16 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-25 12:43 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 14/20] t/lib-gpg: refactor `sanitize_pgp()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 15/20] t/lib-t6000: refactor `name_from_description()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 19:41 ` Eric Sunshine
2025-03-24 12:46 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 16/20] t/lib-httpd: refactor "one-time-perl" CGI script " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 17/20] t0021: refactor `generate_random_characters()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 18/20] t0210: refactor trace2 scrubbing to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 19/20] t5316: refactor `max_chain()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 9:35 ` [PATCH 20/20] t5703: refactor test " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 00/20] t: drop Perl as a mandatory prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] t: skip chain lint when PERL_PATH is unset Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] t: refactor environment sanitization to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] t: adapt character translation helpers " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] t: adapt `test_copy_bytes()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] t: adapt `test_readlink()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] t: introduce PERL_TEST_HELPERS prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] t: adapt existing PERL prerequisites Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] meson: stop requiring Perl when tests are enabled Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] Makefile: stop requiring Perl when running tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl transliteration operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl substitution operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 14:35 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-27 10:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl to print data Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl for textconv scripts Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] t/lib-gpg: refactor `sanitize_pgp()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] t/lib-t6000: refactor `name_from_description()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] t/lib-httpd: refactor "one-time-perl" CGI script " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] t0021: refactor `generate_random_characters()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] t0210: refactor trace2 scrubbing to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] t5316: refactor `max_chain()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-25 13:14 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] t5703: refactor test " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 00/20] t: drop Perl as a mandatory prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:36 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] t: skip chain lint when PERL_PATH is unset Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] t: refactor environment sanitization to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] t: adapt character translation helpers " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] t: adapt `test_copy_bytes()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] t: adapt `test_readlink()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] t: introduce PERL_TEST_HELPERS prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 18:26 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-04-02 19:10 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-03 5:05 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] t: adapt existing PERL prerequisites Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] meson: stop requiring Perl when tests are enabled Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] Makefile: stop requiring Perl when running tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl transliteration operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl substitution operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 18:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl to print data Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 18:35 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl for textconv scripts Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 18:55 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-02 19:17 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] t/lib-gpg: refactor `sanitize_pgp()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 18:56 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] t/lib-t6000: refactor `name_from_description()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] t/lib-httpd: refactor "one-time-perl" CGI script " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] t0021: refactor `generate_random_characters()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-01 19:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-02 7:16 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] t0210: refactor trace2 scrubbing to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] t5316: refactor `max_chain()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-27 10:37 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] t5703: refactor test " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-28 10:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/20] t: drop Perl as a mandatory prerequisite Phillip Wood
2025-04-02 19:32 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] t: skip chain lint when PERL_PATH is unset Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] t: refactor environment sanitization to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] t: adapt character translation helpers " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] t: adapt `test_copy_bytes()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] t: adapt `test_readlink()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] t: introduce PERL_TEST_HELPERS prerequisite Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] t: adapt existing PERL prerequisites Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:05 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] meson: stop requiring Perl when tests are enabled Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] Makefile: stop requiring Perl when running tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl transliteration operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl substitution operator Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl to print data Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-10 19:52 ` SZEDER Gábor
2025-06-10 21:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-07 9:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-10 21:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] t: refactor tests depending on Perl for textconv scripts Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] t/lib-gpg: refactor `sanitize_pgp()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] t/lib-t6000: refactor `name_from_description()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] t/lib-httpd: refactor "one-time-perl" CGI script " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] t0021: refactor `generate_random_characters()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] t0210: refactor trace2 scrubbing to not use Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] t5316: refactor `max_chain()` to not depend on Perl Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 5:06 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] t5703: refactor test " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-03 12:12 ` [PATCH v4 00/20] t: drop Perl as a mandatory prerequisite Johannes Schindelin
2025-04-08 0:32 ` Junio C Hamano
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