From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Cc: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, git@vger.kernel.org,
jltobler@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] refs: introduce support for partial reference transactions
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:10:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7X0ga1nmRheAQJ4@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <282b132e-27b0-41b7-8556-cbbdc08081bc@gmail.com>
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 02:34:15PM +0000, Phillip Wood wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 12:34, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> > Thinking this out, having a different interface sound good, but I feel
> > we'd end up with the same structure as currently presented in this
> > series. Only other way is to really split the implementation to support
> > partial transactions as a entity of its own. In that case, we'd end up
> > with code duplication.
> >
> > Do you think you can expand a little more here?
>
> I was thinking of a function that took a list of refs to update and made a
> best effort to update them, ignoring any updates that fail.
>
> My concern with adding a flag to ignore errors in the transaction api is
> that a partial transaction is a contradiction in terms. I'm also concerned
> that it seems to be ignoring all errors. I'd be happier if there was someway
> for the caller to specify which errors to ignore or if the caller could
> provide a callback to handle any errors. That way a caller could ignore d/f
> conflicts but still cause the transaction to fail if there was an i/o or
> could create a reference if it did not exist but leave it unchanged if it
> did exist.
This is a fair point I think, and it's also something that I called out
in [1]. We shouldn't blanket-ignore all errors, but instead only ignore
a well-known subset of errors and then record the exact failure reason.
This allows for better and more unified error reporting, and would also
allow us to easily build mechanisms where callers can specify that we
are only expected to ignore a subset of those well-defined errors.
But I also think that this is another selling point for continuing to
build on top of the ref transaction. If we now want to record and ignore
specific errors, only, then this falls out quite naturally from the
current design of ref transactions. We already have all the ref updates
in there, so we can then simply set an `enum ref_transaction_error`
field for each of the failed updates.
Eventually, I think we could also allow for modes where we declare only
a subset of reference updates to be allowed to fail. I don't have a
specific usecase for this, and don't think it needs to be implemented
without one. But it's another thing that we could implement on top of
transactions rather trivially.
Patrick
[1]: <Z6YxA4BlhNwbeYk-@pks.im>
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Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-07 7:34 [PATCH 0/6] refs: introduce support for partial reference transactions Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] refs/files: remove duplicate check in `split_symref_update()` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 16:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-11 6:35 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 16:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-11 10:33 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 16:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 5/6] refs: implement partial reference transaction support Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 16:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-21 10:33 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 7:34 ` [PATCH 6/6] update-ref: add --allow-partial flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-02-07 16:12 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-02-21 11:45 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-11 17:03 ` [PATCH 0/6] refs: introduce support for partial reference transactions Phillip Wood
2025-02-11 17:40 ` Phillip Wood
2025-02-12 12:36 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-12 12:34 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-19 14:34 ` Phillip Wood
2025-02-19 15:10 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-02-21 11:50 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] " Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] refs/files: remove redundant check in split_symref_update() Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] refs: introduce enum-based transaction error types Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 11:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-03 20:12 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] refs: implement partial reference transaction support Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 11:07 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-03 20:17 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 14:57 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-03 20:21 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-04 10:31 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-05 14:20 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 9:29 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] update-ref: add --allow-partial flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 11:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-03 20:22 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-02-25 14:59 ` Phillip Wood
2025-03-03 20:34 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] refs: introduce support for partial reference transactions Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] refs/files: remove redundant check in split_symref_update() Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 21:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-06 9:13 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 21:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-06 9:46 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:38 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:39 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] refs: introduce enum-based transaction error types Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:39 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] refs: implement partial reference transaction support Karthik Nayak
2025-03-07 19:50 ` Jeff King
2025-03-07 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-07 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-07 21:05 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-07 22:54 ` [PATCH] config.mak.dev: enable -Wunreachable-code Jeff King
2025-03-07 23:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-08 3:23 ` Jeff King
2025-03-10 15:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-10 16:04 ` Jeff King
2025-03-10 18:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 16:10 ` Jeff King
2025-03-14 16:13 ` Jeff King
2025-03-14 17:27 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 17:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 17:43 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-14 18:53 ` Jeff King
2025-03-14 19:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 17:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-03 21:29 ` Mike Hommey
2025-06-03 22:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-03 22:37 ` Mike Hommey
2025-06-03 23:08 ` Mike Hommey
2025-03-14 21:09 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] -Wunreachable-code Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 21:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] config.mak.dev: enable -Wunreachable-code Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 21:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] run-command: use errno to check for sigfillset() error Junio C Hamano
2025-03-17 21:30 ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-17 23:12 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-18 0:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 21:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] git-compat-util: add NOT_A_CONST macro and use it in atfork_prepare() Junio C Hamano
2025-03-14 22:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-17 18:00 ` Jeff King
2025-03-17 23:53 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] -Wunreachable-code Junio C Hamano
2025-03-17 23:53 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] run-command: use errno to check for sigfillset() error Junio C Hamano
2025-03-17 23:53 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-compat-util: add NOT_CONSTANT macro and use it in atfork_prepare() Junio C Hamano
2025-03-18 0:20 ` Jeff King
2025-03-18 0:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-18 22:04 ` Calvin Wan
2025-03-18 22:26 ` Calvin Wan
2025-03-18 23:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-17 23:53 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] config.mak.dev: enable -Wunreachable-code Junio C Hamano
2025-03-18 0:18 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] -Wunreachable-code Jeff King
2025-03-07 21:02 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] refs: implement partial reference transaction support Karthik Nayak
2025-03-07 19:57 ` Jeff King
2025-03-07 21:07 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:39 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] refs: support partial update rejections during F/D checks Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 17:39 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] update-ref: add --allow-partial flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-03-05 19:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] refs: introduce support for partial reference transactions Junio C Hamano
2025-03-06 9:06 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:43 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] refs: introduce support for batched reference updates Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] refs/files: remove redundant check in split_symref_update() Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:43 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:43 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:43 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:44 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] refs: introduce enum-based transaction error types Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 20:26 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 14:50 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-25 12:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 11:44 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] refs: implement batch reference update support Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 20:26 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 14:54 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-20 11:44 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] refs: support rejection in batch updates during F/D checks Karthik Nayak
2025-03-24 13:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 17:48 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-25 12:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-20 11:44 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] update-ref: add --batch-updates flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-03-24 13:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-24 17:51 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] refs: introduce support for batched reference updates Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] refs/files: remove redundant check in split_symref_update() Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] refs: introduce enum-based transaction error types Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] refs: implement batch reference update support Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] refs: support rejection in batch updates during F/D checks Karthik Nayak
2025-03-27 11:13 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] update-ref: add --batch-updates flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-03-28 13:00 ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-03-29 16:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-29 18:18 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-03-28 9:24 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] refs: introduce support for batched reference updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 " Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] refs/files: remove redundant check in split_symref_update() Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] refs: move duplicate refname update check to generic layer Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] refs/files: remove duplicate duplicates check Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] refs/reftable: extract code from the transaction preparation Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] refs: introduce enum-based transaction error types Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] refs: implement batch reference update support Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] refs: support rejection in batch updates during F/D checks Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 8:51 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] update-ref: add --batch-updates flag for stdin mode Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 15:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-08 15:26 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-04-08 17:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-10 11:23 ` Karthik Nayak
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