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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 18:03:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8DvLkWys6KaQNJl@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BGv6J307nTo1sUgAnE+7ZnueSPm4CJLb10wBGQGaPPDWA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:26:32AM -0800, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > However, this process breaks down when we attempt to freshen an object
> > packed in an earlier cruft pack that is larger than the threshold and
> > thus will survive the repack.
>
> ...packed in an earlier cruft pack, and that cruft pack is larger than
> the threshold...
>
> (Otherwise, it's unclear whether you are talking about the object or
> the cruft pack it is in being larger than the threshold.)

Good suggestion, thanks!

> > When this is the case, it is impossible to freshen objects in cruft
> > pack(s) which are larger than the threshold. This is because we avoid
> > writing them in the new cruft pack entirely, for a couple of reasons.
>
> ...freshen objects in cruft packs when those cruft packs are larger
> than the threshold...
>
> Again, just to clarify what thing is "larger".

Likewise, this makes sense as well, and I applied it in my local copy.

> Also, this paragraph while fine on its own is slightly unclear whether
> you are discussing pre-patch or post-patch state, which when reading
> the next two items causes some double takes.  Perhaps just spell it
> out slightly clearer here that for the next two enumerated items you
> are discussing the existing state previous to your changes?

I adjusted the paragraph before this one to make it a little clearer.
Instead of saying "However, [...]", I rewrote it as "Prior to this
patch, however, [...]".

> >  - exists in a non-cruft pack that we are retaining, regardless of that
> >    pack's mtime, or
> >
> >  - exists in a cruft pack with an mtime more recent than the copy we are
> >    debating whether or not to pack, in which case freshening would be
> >    redundant.
>
> s/more recent than/at least as recent as/ ?

Thanks for the careful read, and yes, the comparison here is a >= rather
than a strict >, and that difference is worth being precise about.

> >
> > To do this, keep track of whether or not we have any cruft packs in our
> > in-core kept list with a new 'ignore_packed_keep_in_core_has_cruft'
> > flag. When we end up in this new special case, we replace a call to
> > 'has_object_kept_pack()' to 'want_cruft_object_mtime()', and only
> > reject objects when we have a copy in an existing cruft pack with a more
> > recent mtime (in which case "freshening" would be redundant).
>
> Again, s/a more recent/at least as recent/ ?

I like this suggestion, but I think the wording ends up a little awkward
if applied as-is. I turned this sentence into:

  [...], and only reject objects when we have a copy in an existing
  cruft pack with at least as recent an mtime as our candidate (in which
  case "freshening" would be redundant).

Let me know what you think!
> > +test_expect_success '--max-cruft-size with freshened objects (previously cruft)' '
> > +       git init max-cruft-size-threshold &&
> > +       (
> > +               cd max-cruft-size-threshold &&
> > +
> > +               test_commit base &&
> > +               foo="$(generate_random_blob foo $((2*1024*1024)))" &&
> > +               bar="$(generate_random_blob bar $((2*1024*1024)))" &&
> > +               baz="$(generate_random_blob baz $((2*1024*1024)))" &&
> > +
> > +               test-tool chmtime --get -100000 \
> > +                       "$objdir/$(test_oid_to_path "$foo")" >foo.old &&
> > +               test-tool chmtime --get -100000 \
> > +                       "$objdir/$(test_oid_to_path "$bar")" >bar.old &&
> > +               test-tool chmtime --get -100000 \
> > +                       "$objdir/$(test_oid_to_path "$baz")" >baz.old &&
> > +
> > +               git repack --cruft -d &&
> > +
> > +               # Make a packed copy of object $foo with a more recent
> > +               # mtime.
>
> s/$foo/foo/ ?

Eh. $foo holds the OID of that blob, so "foo" on its own doesn't really
mean anything (even though the implicit meaning is clear from context).
I think changing it is fine (leaving it alone is equally fine in my
mind, but I don't feel strongly about it).

> > +               foo="$(generate_random_blob foo $((2*1024*1024)))" &&
>
> I thought this was creating a completely different foo, which would
> defeat the point of the test.  It might be worth adding a comment that
> because generate_random_blob uses a very simplistic and repeatable
> random character generator with the first argument as the seed, that
> this will regenerate the same loose object as above for foo.

I think the part of the comment which reads "packed copy of" makes it
clear-ish that we're creating an identical copy, but it doesn't hurt to
be more explicit here.

Thanks for the careful read!

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-27 23:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-27 18:29 [PATCH 0/2] pack-objects: freshen objects with multi-cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-02-27 18:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] builtin/repack.c: simplify cruft pack aggregation Taylor Blau
2025-02-27 19:23   ` Elijah Newren
2025-02-27 22:53     ` Taylor Blau
2025-02-28  7:52   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-04 21:52     ` Elijah Newren
2025-03-05  2:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-05  0:09     ` Taylor Blau
2025-02-27 18:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-02-27 19:26   ` Elijah Newren
2025-02-27 23:03     ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2025-02-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] pack-objects: freshen objects with multi-cruft packs Elijah Newren
2025-02-27 23:05   ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-04 21:35 ` [PATCH v2 " Taylor Blau
2025-03-04 21:35   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] builtin/repack.c: simplify cruft pack aggregation Taylor Blau
2025-03-04 21:35   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-03-04 22:55   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] pack-objects: freshen objects with multi-cruft packs Elijah Newren
2025-03-05  0:06     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-05  0:13       ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-05  0:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] " Taylor Blau
2025-03-05  0:15   ` [PATCH v3 1/1] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-03-06 10:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-13 17:32       ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-06 10:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/1] pack-objects: freshen objects with multi-cruft packs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-03-11  0:21 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Taylor Blau
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t/t5329-pack-objects-cruft.sh: evict 'repack'-related tests Taylor Blau
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 2/6] t7704-repack-cruft.sh: consolidate `write_blob()` Taylor Blau
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 3/6] t/lib-cruft.sh: extract some cruft-related helpers Taylor Blau
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 4/6] pack-objects: generate cruft packs at most one object over threshold Taylor Blau
2025-03-11 21:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 15:22       ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-12 18:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 19:02           ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-12 19:13             ` Elijah Newren
2025-03-12 19:33               ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-12 20:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 20:49                 ` Elijah Newren
2025-03-13 12:16                   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-13 16:23                     ` Elijah Newren
2025-03-13 17:06                       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 5/6] builtin/repack.c: simplify cruft pack aggregation Taylor Blau
2025-03-11  0:21   ` [PATCH v4 6/6] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-03-11 20:13   ` [PATCH v4 0/6] pack-objects: freshen objects with multi-cruft packs Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 15:33     ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-12 18:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 19:04         ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-12 19:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-12 19:52             ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-13 17:17               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-13 17:35                 ` Taylor Blau
2025-03-13  6:29           ` Jeff King
2025-03-13 15:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-03-13 18:09 ` [PATCH v5] builtin/pack-objects.c: freshen objects from existing cruft packs Taylor Blau
2025-03-13 18:41   ` Junio C Hamano

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