From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/24] pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` mode
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 09:17:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWmWojF6BlOTzkcc@tanuki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWjjSOJHw6Q1qQ+y@nand.local>
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On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 02:32:24PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 11:18:57AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > > Instead, teach `pack-objects` a special `--ignore-disjoint` which is the
> > > moral equivalent of marking the set of disjoint packs as kept, and
> > > ignoring their contents, even if it would have otherwise been packed. In
> > > fact, this similarity extends down to the implementation, where each
> > > disjoint pack is first loaded, then has its `pack_keep_in_core` bit set.
> > >
> > > With this in place, we can use the kept-pack cache from 20b031fede
> > > (packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry(), 2021-02-22),
> > > which looks up objects first in a cache containing just the set of kept
> > > (in this case, disjoint) packs. Assuming that the set of disjoint packs
> > > is a relatively small portion of the entire repository (which should be
> > > a safe assumption to make), each object lookup will be very inexpensive.
> >
> > This cought me by surprise a bit. I'd have expected that in the end,
> > most of the packfiles in a repository would be disjoint. Using for
> > example geometric repacks, my expectation was that all of the packs that
> > get written via geometric repacking would eventually become disjoint
> > whereas new packs added to the repository would initially not be.
>
> Which part are you referring to here? If you're referring to the part
> where I say that the set of disjoint packs is relatively small in
> proposition to the rest of the packs, I think I know where the confusion
> is.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to.
> I'm not saying that the set of disjoint packs is small in comparison to
> the rest of the repository by object count, but rather by count of packs
> overall. You're right that packs from pushes will not be guaranteed to
> be disjoint upon entering the repository, but will become disjoint when
> geometrically repacked (assuming that the caller uses --ignore-disjoint
> when repacking).
I was actually thinking about it in the number of packfiles, not number
of objects. I'm mostly coming from the angle of geometric repacking
here, where it is totally expected that you have a comparatively large
number of packfiles when your repository is big. With a geometric factor
of 2, you'll have up to `log2($numobjects)` many packfiles in your repo
while keeping the geometric sequence intact.
In something like linux.git with almost 10M objects that boils down to
23 packfiles, and I'd assume that all of these would be disjoint in the
best case. So if you gain new packfiles by pushing into the repository
then I'd think that it's quite likely that the number of non-disjoint
packfiles is smaller than the number of disjoint ones.
I do realize though that in absolute numbers, this isn't all that many.
I was also thinking ahead though to a future where we have something
like geometric repacking with maximum packfile sizes working well
together so that we'll be able to merge packfiles together until they
reach a certain maximum size, and afterwards they are just left alone.
This would help to avoid those "surprise" repack cases where everything
is again packed into a single packfile for the biggest repositories out
there. But it would of course also lead to an increase in packfiles in
those huge repositories.
Anyway, I feel like I'm rambling. In the end it's probably going to be
fine, I was simply surprised by your assumption that the number of
disjoint packfiles should usually be much smaller than the number of
non-disjoint ones.
Patrick
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Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-28 19:07 [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 01/24] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:08 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 02/24] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:11 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 7:04 ` Jeff King
2023-12-12 16:48 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/24] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 7:04 ` Jeff King
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/24] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:19 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/24] midx: implement `DISP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:27 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-03 13:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-05 19:26 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-09 1:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-09 2:30 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 8:03 ` Jeff King
2023-12-13 18:28 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-13 19:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/24] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/24] midx: implement `--retain-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:29 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:02 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/24] pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:32 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:17 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2023-12-01 19:58 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:28 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08 8:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-08 22:48 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-11 8:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-11 19:59 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/24] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:34 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08 8:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 11/24] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 14:36 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 12/24] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 13/24] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 14/24] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:43 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 15/24] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 16/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:47 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 17/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 18/24] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 19/24] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 20/24] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 21/24] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 22/24] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 23/24] pack-bitmap: reuse objects from all disjoint packs Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 24/24] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:39 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 20:02 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-04 8:49 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-12 8:12 ` Jeff King
2023-12-15 15:37 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 11:13 ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:22 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/26] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/26] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/26] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/26] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/26] midx: implement `BTMP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/26] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/26] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/26] ewah: implement `bitmap_is_empty()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/26] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/26] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/26] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/26] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 13/26] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 14/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 15/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 16/26] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 17/26] git-compat-util.h: implement checked size_t to uint32_t conversion Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 18/26] midx: implement `midx_preferred_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 19/26] pack-revindex: factor out `midx_key_to_pack_pos()` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 20/26] pack-revindex: implement `midx_pair_to_pack_pos()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 21/26] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 22/26] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 23/26] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 24/26] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 25/26] pack-bitmap: enable reuse from all bitmapped packs Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 26/26] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-15 0:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15 0:38 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-15 0:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15 1:25 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 10:51 ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:24 ` Taylor Blau
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