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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 15:02:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWo7zjs+q8SZ5o1o@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWmZ0pk6fr-8dmF1@tanuki>

On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 09:31:14AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > But
> > I still find it relatively unsatisfying for a couple of reasons:
> >
> >   - With the exception of the last group of patches, none of the earlier
> >     series enable any new, useful behavior on their own. IOW, if we just
> >     merged the first three series and then forgot about this topic, we
> >     wouldn't have done anything useful ;-).
>
> Well, sometimes I wish we'd buy more into the iterative style of working
> in the Git project, where it's fine to land patch series that only work
> into the direction of a specific topic but don't yet do anything
> interesting by themselves. The benefits would be both that individual
> pieces land faster while also ensuring that the review load is kept at
> bay.
>
> But there's of course also downsides to this, especially in an open
> source project like Git:

I tend to agree with the downsides you list. My biggest concern with
this series in particular is that we're trying to break down an
all-or-nothing change into smaller components. So if we landed four out
of the five of those series, it would be better to have landed none of
them, since the first four aren't really all that useful on their own.

I suppose if we're relatively confident that the last series will be
merged eventually, then that seems like less of a concern. But I'm not
sure that we're at that point yet.

> I wonder whether a compromise would be to continue sending complete
> patch series, but explicitly point out "break points" in your patch
> series. These break points could be an indicator to the maintainer that
> it's fine to merge everything up to it while still keeping out the
> remainder of the patch series.

I think that's a reasonable alternative. It does create a minor headache
for the maintainer[^1], though, so I'd like to avoid it if possible.

> >   - The fourth series (which actually implements multi-pack reuse) still
> >     remains the most complicated, and would likely be the most difficult
> >     to review. So I think you'd still have one difficult series to
> >     review, plus four other series which are slightly less difficult to
> >     review ;-).
>
> That's fine in my opinion, there's no surprise here that a complicated
> topic is demanding for both the author and the reviewer.

My preference is to avoid splitting the series if we can help it. But if
you feel strongly, or others feel similarly, I'm happy to take another
crack at breaking it up. Thanks for all of your review so far!

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-28 19:07 [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 01/24] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:08     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 02/24] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:11     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  7:04   ` Jeff King
2023-12-12 16:48     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/24] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  7:04   ` Jeff King
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/24] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:19     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/24] midx: implement `DISP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:27     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-03 13:15   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-05 19:26     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-09  1:40       ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-09  2:30         ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12  8:03           ` Jeff King
2023-12-13 18:28             ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-13 19:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/24] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/24] midx: implement `--retain-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:29     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:02       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/24] pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:32     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:17       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 19:58         ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:28     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08  8:19       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-08 22:48         ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-11  8:18           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-11 19:59             ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/24] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:34     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08  8:19       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 11/24] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 14:36     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 12/24] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 13/24] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 14/24] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:43     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 15/24] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 16/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:47     ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 17/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 18/24] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 19/24] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 20/24] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 21/24] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 22/24] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 23/24] pack-bitmap: reuse objects from all disjoint packs Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 24/24] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:39   ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01  8:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 20:02       ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2023-12-04  8:49         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-12  8:12 ` Jeff King
2023-12-15 15:37   ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 11:13     ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:22       ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 01/26] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 02/26] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 03/26] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 04/26] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 05/26] midx: implement `BTMP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 06/26] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 07/26] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23   ` [PATCH v2 08/26] ewah: implement `bitmap_is_empty()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 09/26] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 10/26] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 11/26] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 12/26] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 13/26] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 14/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 15/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 16/26] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 17/26] git-compat-util.h: implement checked size_t to uint32_t conversion Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 18/26] midx: implement `midx_preferred_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 19/26] pack-revindex: factor out `midx_key_to_pack_pos()` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 20/26] pack-revindex: implement `midx_pair_to_pack_pos()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 21/26] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 22/26] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 23/26] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 24/26] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 25/26] pack-bitmap: enable reuse from all bitmapped packs Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24   ` [PATCH v2 26/26] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-15  0:06   ` [PATCH v2 00/26] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15  0:38     ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-15  0:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15  1:25       ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 10:51         ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:24           ` Taylor Blau

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