From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 14:59:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZXdqLhkvqpJ9Jx9t@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXbF2O4qjIr2L7b8@tanuki>
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 09:18:32AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > If you have the bulk of your repositories in the alternate, then I think
> > you might want to consider how we combine the two.
>
> Yes, in the general case the bulk of objects is indeed contained in the
> alternate.
I thought about this for a while this morning, and think that while it
is possible, I'm not sure I can think of a compelling use-case where
you'd want to reuse objects from packs across an alternate boundary.
On the "I think it's possible front":
The challenge is making sure that the set of disjoint packs among each
object store is globally disjoint in one direction along the alternate
path. I think the rule would require you to honor the disjointed-ness of
any packs in alternate(s) you might have when constructing new disjoint
packs.
So if repository fork.git is an alternate of network.git (and both had
long-lived MIDXs), network.git is free to make any set of disjoint packs
it chooses, and fork.git can only create disjoint packs which are
disjoint with respect to (a) the other disjoint packs in fork.git (if
any), and (b) the disjoint packs in network.git (and recursively for any
repositories that network.git is an alternate of in the general case).
Now on the "I can't think of a compelling use-case front":
I think the only reason you'd want to be able to reuse objects from
MIDXs across the alternates boundary is if you have MIDX bitmaps in both
the repository and its alternate. Indeed, the only time that we kick in
pack-reuse in general is when we have a bitmap, so in order to reuse
objects from both the repo and its alternate, you'd have to have a
bitmap in both repositories.
But having a MIDX bitmap means that any packs in the MIDX for which
you're generating a bitmap have to be closed over object reachability.
So unless the repository and its alternate have totally distinct lines
of history (in which case, I'm not sure you would want to share objects
between the two in the first place), any pack you bitmap in the child
repository fundamentally couldn't be disjoint with respect to its
parent.
This is because if it were to be disjoint, it would have to be repacked
with '-l' (or some equivalent '-l'-like flag that only ignores non-local
packs which are marked as disjoint). But if you exclude those objects
and any one (or more) of them is reachable from some object(s) you
didn't exclude, you wouldn't be able to generate a bitmap in the first
place.
It's very possible that there's something about your setup that I'm not
fully grokking, but I don't think in general this is something that we'd
want to do (even if it is theoretically possible).
> > Whether or not this is a feature that you/others need, I definitely
> > think we should leave it out of this series, since I am (a) fairly
> > certain that this is possible to do, and (b) already feel like this
> > series on its own is complicated enough.
>
> I'm perfectly fine if we say that the benefits of your patch series
> cannot yet be applied to repositories with alternates. But from my point
> of view it's a requirement that this patch series does not silently
> break this usecase due to Git starting to generate disjointed packs
> where it cannot ensure that the disjointedness property holds.
I think one thing you could reasonably do is use *only* the non-local
MIDX bitmaps when doing pack reuse.
Currently we'll use the first MIDX we find, which is guaranteed to be
the local one, if it exists. This was the case before this series, and
this series does not change that behavior. Unless you had a pack bitmap
in the alternated repository (which I think is unlikely, since it would
require a full reachability closure, thus eliminating any de-duplication
benefits you'd otherwise get when using alternates), you'd be find
before and after this series.
> As I haven't yet read through this whole patch series, the question is
> boils down to whether the end result is opt-in or opt-out. If it was
> opt-out then I could see the above usecase breaking silently. If it was
> opt-in then things should be fine and we can address this ommission in a
> follow up patch series. We at GitLab would definitely be interested in
> helping out with this given that it directly affects us and that the
> demonstrated savings seem very promising.
The end result is opt-in, you have to change the `pack.allowPackReuse`
configuration from its default value of "true" (or the alternate
spelling taught in this series, "single") to "multi" in order to enable
the new behavior.
Thanks,
Taylor
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-11 19:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-28 19:07 [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 01/24] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:08 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:07 ` [PATCH 02/24] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:11 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 7:04 ` Jeff King
2023-12-12 16:48 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/24] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 7:04 ` Jeff King
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/24] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:19 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/24] midx: implement `DISP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:27 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-03 13:15 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-05 19:26 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-09 1:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-09 2:30 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-12 8:03 ` Jeff King
2023-12-13 18:28 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-13 19:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/24] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/24] midx: implement `--retain-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:29 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:02 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/24] pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:32 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:17 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 19:58 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:28 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08 8:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-08 22:48 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-11 8:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-11 19:59 ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/24] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:34 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-08 8:19 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 11/24] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 14:36 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 12/24] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 13/24] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 14/24] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:43 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 15/24] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 16/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-07 13:13 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-07 20:47 ` Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 17/24] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 18/24] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 19/24] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 20/24] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 21/24] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 22/24] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 23/24] pack-bitmap: reuse objects from all disjoint packs Taylor Blau
2023-11-28 19:08 ` [PATCH 24/24] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-11-30 10:18 ` [PATCH 00/24] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Patrick Steinhardt
2023-11-30 19:39 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-01 8:31 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-01 20:02 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-04 8:49 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2023-12-12 8:12 ` Jeff King
2023-12-15 15:37 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 11:13 ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:22 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/26] pack-objects: free packing_data in more places Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/26] pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slab Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/26] pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects() Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/26] midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/26] midx: implement `BTMP` chunk Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/26] midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/26] pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/26] ewah: implement `bitmap_is_empty()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 09/26] pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signature Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 10/26] pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 11/26] pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 12/26] pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse pack Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 13/26] pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functions Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 14/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 15/26] pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` " Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 16/26] pack-objects: include number of packs reused in output Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 17/26] git-compat-util.h: implement checked size_t to uint32_t conversion Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 18/26] midx: implement `midx_preferred_pack()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 19/26] pack-revindex: factor out `midx_key_to_pack_pos()` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 20/26] pack-revindex: implement `midx_pair_to_pack_pos()` Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 21/26] pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 22/26] pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metrics Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 23/26] t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helper Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 24/26] pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single" Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 25/26] pack-bitmap: enable reuse from all bitmapped packs Taylor Blau
2023-12-14 22:24 ` [PATCH v2 26/26] t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuse Taylor Blau
2023-12-15 0:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/26] pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuse Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15 0:38 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-15 0:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-12-15 1:25 ` Taylor Blau
2023-12-21 10:51 ` Jeff King
2024-01-04 22:24 ` Taylor Blau
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