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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] for-each-ref: avoid filtering on empty pattern
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 09:50:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcSVx4slikt4xB3D@tanuki> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOLa=ZQaXxwrXmbmFvGR59EDo3Eqa-Xfc3OG9+6ES-veDU8Bhg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 06:02:34PM +0100, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 5:46 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > This is a bit of a grey area, what I mean is that we do allow users to create
> > > non "refs/" prefixed refs:
> > >
> > >     $ git update-ref foo @~1
> > >
> > >     $ cat .git/foo
> > >     2b52187cd2930931c6d34436371f470bb26eef4f
> > >
> > > What I mean to say is that, by saying "--include-root-refs" it seems to imply
> > > that any such refs should be included too, but this simply is not the case.
> >
> > But isn't that a quality of implementation issue?  I'd consider it a
> > bug once we have and enforce the definition of what pseudorefs are.
> 
> Yeah, that makes sense. I'll use "--include-root-refs" then.

I'd still argue that this is too specific to the files backend. The fact
that we end up only adding root refs to the files backend to me is an
implementation-specific limitation and not a feature. What I really want
is to ask the backend to give me all refs that it knows of for the
current worktree.

The "reftable" backend has this snippet in its iterator:

```
/*
 * The files backend only lists references contained in
 * "refs/". We emulate the same behaviour here and thus skip
 * all references that don't start with this prefix.
 */
if (!starts_with(iter->ref.refname, "refs/"))
    continue;
```

If we add the new `--include-root-refs` flag then we would have to
extend it to query whether the ref either starts with "refs/" or whether
it might look like a pseudo-ref:

```
if (!starts_with(iter->ref.refname, "refs/") &&
    !(flags & INCLUDE_ROOT_REFS || is_pseudoref(iter->ref.refname)))
    continue;
```

The problem I have is that it still wouldn't end up surfacing all refs
which exist in the ref backend while being computationally more
expensive. So the original usecase I had in mind when pitching this
topic isn't actually addressed.

I know that in theory, the reftable backend shouldn't contain refs other
than "refs/" or pseudo-refs anyway. But regardless of that, I think that
formulating this in the form of "root refs" is too restrictive and too
much focussed on the "files" backend. I wouldn't be surprised if there
are ways to have git-update-ref(1) or other tools write refs with
unexpected names, and not being able to learn about those is a
limitation.

Putting this in the context of "Give me all refs which you know of for
the current worktree" is a lot simpler. It would still be equivalent to
"--include-root-refs" for the "files" backend, because the files backend
doesn't have a way to properly track all refs it has ever created. And
for the "reftable" backend it's as simple as this:

```
if (!(iter->flags & DO_FOR_EACH_INCLUDE_ALL_REFS) &&
    !starts_with(iter->ref.refname, "refs/"))
```

I'm not sure about better terminology though. Something like
`--include-all-worktree-refs` could easily lead to confusion because it
might make the user think that they also want to list refs from other
worktrees. The best I can come up with is `--include-non-refs` -- pseudo
refs aren't real refs, and neither are refs which don't start with
"refs/".

Patrick

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-08  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-19 14:27 [PATCH 0/5] for-each-ref: print all refs on empty string pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 14:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] refs: expose `is_pseudoref_syntax()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 20:37   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-22 15:40     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 14:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] refs: make `is_pseudoref_syntax()` stricter Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 20:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-22 20:13   ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-22 20:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-23 11:03       ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-23 12:49         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-23 16:40           ` phillip.wood123
2024-01-23 17:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-23 17:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-23 11:16       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-01-23 16:30         ` Phillip Wood
2024-01-23 17:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-24  8:51           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-01-19 14:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] refs: extract out `loose_fill_ref_dir_regular_file()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 14:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] refs: introduce `refs_for_each_all_refs()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-19 20:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-22 15:48     ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-22 17:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-19 14:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] for-each-ref: avoid filtering on empty pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 15:27 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] for-each-ref: print all refs on empty string pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 15:27   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] refs: introduce `is_pseudoref()` and `is_headref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 19:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-25 16:20       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-25 16:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-25 21:48           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 15:27   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] refs: extract out `loose_fill_ref_dir_regular_file()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 15:27   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] refs: introduce `refs_for_each_all_refs()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-24 15:27   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] for-each-ref: avoid filtering on empty pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-01-29 11:35 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] for-each-ref: print all refs on empty string pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-01-29 11:35   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] refs: introduce `is_pseudoref()` and `is_headref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-07  1:48     ` Jeff King
2024-02-07  9:27       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-29 11:35   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] refs: extract out `loose_fill_ref_dir_regular_file()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-29 11:35   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] refs: introduce `refs_for_each_all_refs()` Karthik Nayak
2024-01-29 11:35   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] for-each-ref: avoid filtering on empty pattern Karthik Nayak
2024-02-05 18:48     ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-06  5:33       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-06 10:49         ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-06  8:52       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-06 13:55         ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-06 15:30           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-06 17:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-06 18:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-06 22:10               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-06 22:16                 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-07 14:10                   ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-07 16:00                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-07 16:18                       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-07 16:46                         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-07 17:02                           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-08  8:50                             ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2024-02-08 17:04                               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-08 17:24                                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-08 17:53                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-09  8:08                                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-09 17:15                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-09 18:27                                         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-12  6:51                                           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-08 10:28                   ` Phillip Wood
2024-02-08 17:07                     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-07  7:48                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-07 16:01                   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-01-29 20:37   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] for-each-ref: print all refs on empty string pattern Junio C Hamano
2024-02-11 18:39 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] for-each-ref: add '--include-root-refs' option Karthik Nayak
2024-02-11 18:39   ` [PATCH v4 1/5] refs: introduce `is_pseudoref()` and `is_headref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-12 12:47     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-12 17:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-13 15:48       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-13 19:42       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-14 10:28         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-14 16:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-14 18:15             ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-12 18:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-11 18:39   ` [PATCH v4 2/5] refs: extract out `loose_fill_ref_dir_regular_file()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-11 18:39   ` [PATCH v4 3/5] refs: introduce `refs_for_each_include_root_refs()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-11 18:39   ` [PATCH v4 4/5] ref-filter: rename 'FILTER_REFS_ALL' to 'FILTER_REFS_REGULAR' Karthik Nayak
2024-02-11 18:39   ` [PATCH v4 5/5] for-each-ref: add new option to include root refs Karthik Nayak
2024-02-22  8:46     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-22 12:57       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-22 13:17         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-23 10:01 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] for-each-ref: add '--include-root-refs' option Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 10:01   ` [PATCH v5 1/5] refs: introduce `is_pseudoref()` and `is_headref()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 10:01   ` [PATCH v5 2/5] refs: extract out `loose_fill_ref_dir_regular_file()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 10:01   ` [PATCH v5 3/5] refs: introduce `refs_for_each_include_root_refs()` Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 10:01   ` [PATCH v5 4/5] ref-filter: rename 'FILTER_REFS_ALL' to 'FILTER_REFS_REGULAR' Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 10:01   ` [PATCH v5 5/5] for-each-ref: add new option to include root refs Karthik Nayak
2024-02-23 18:41   ` [PATCH v5 0/5] for-each-ref: add '--include-root-refs' option Junio C Hamano
2024-02-23 20:13     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-02-27  7:39   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-02-27 16:54     ` Junio C Hamano

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