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It it is a > full-time job, we have to also pay for the insurances. I don't know > how to hire an individual in an open source project. But intuitively I > think there would be a lot of trouble here due to the laws. As far as I > know, Junio is working at Google. > > So, the biggest problem here is that most of us either work at other > companies for full-time job which are not unrelated to Git or work at > companies which are related to Git(upstream). Although it is an honor to > be hired by an open source project, there are still many concerns for an > individual. > "which are not unrelated to Git" should be "which are unrelated to Git". Sorry for typos here. > From my perspective, we already did this. Junio will rely on the reviews > from other contributors. This is what I got from the Git Contributor's > Summit, 2024: [TOPIC 10/11] Project Tracking. > > https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqployf6z5.fsf@gitster.g/ > I forgot to show my intention here. I do not think we need to really distinguish these two modes. Even if we hire an individual, the individual still needs the help from the community about the unfamiliar fields.