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[104.178.186.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-6e2d9377b16sm1200387b3.30.2024.10.04.15.35.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 04 Oct 2024 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 18:35:44 -0400 From: Taylor Blau To: Junio C Hamano Cc: shejialuo , Patrick Steinhardt , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: the latter half of october, the maintainer goes offline Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 09:58:52AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote: > shejialuo writes: > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 05:22:27PM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> There are two maintainership models I can think of: either a single > >> individual or a group of people would take over. > >> > >> - A single individual needs funding. The ideal situation would be if > >> that funding came independent of any of the large forges. Or > >> alternatively, the big players in this context come together to all > >> pay into the same pot to fund that person. In theory, the role could > >> be elected and serve for a limited amount of time so that overall, > >> the community is in control. > > > > Well, I think we cannot easily fund a single individual. It it is a > > full-time job, we have to also pay for the insurances. I don't know > > how to hire an individual in an open source project. But intuitively I > > think there would be a lot of trouble here due to the laws. It is definitely true that the Git project alone could not fund a full year of the maintainer's salary [1]. > I think the model Patrick has in mind for the above is like how > Linux Foundation hires Linus Torvalds to work full time on Linux, > while the Foundation is funded by large industry players. > > Git has become important enough that such a model may be workable, > and that may make it easier to maintain appearance of impartiality > by whoever is being funded. Sure, though I would add that my personal feeling is that it is a possibility, not a requirement, that the maintainer's funding come from either an independent entity (like the Linux Foundation) or from a pool funded by industry leaders. I say that only to point out that while Junio is employed by Google, I don't think any of us would doubt his impartiality with regard to the project. I think as long as the maintainer's employer does not unfairly influence the maintainer's decisions on their behalf, then it is OK. Thanks, Taylor [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/Zusxcweod1O88h7j@nand.local/