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From: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] pack-revindex: enable on-disk reverse indexes by default
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:39:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4154bd2-3f71-42ba-e21d-097811169a99@github.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDXTwZcRx7rGa5vW@nand.local>

On 4/11/2023 5:40 PM, Taylor Blau wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:54:08AM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>> On 4/10/2023 6:53 PM, Taylor Blau wrote:
>>> In the vast majority of cases, this trade-off favors the on-disk ".rev"
>>> files. But in certain cases, the in-memory variant performs more
>>> favorably. Since these cases are narrow, and performance is machine- and
>>> repository-dependent, this series also introduces a new configuration
>>> option to disable reading ".rev" files in the third commit.
>>
>> I agree that the performance trade-off indicates that having the .rev
>> files is preferred. It makes operations that _can_ be very fast as fast
>> as possible (inspecting a small number of objects is much faster because
>> we don't generate the in-memory index in O(N) time) and you create a knob
>> for disabling it in the case that we are already doing something that
>> inspects almost-all objects.
> 
> Sweet; I'm glad that you agree.
> 
> FWIW for non-GitHub folks, observing a slow-down here has never been an
> issue for us. So much so that I wrote the pack.readReverseIndex knob
> yesterday for the purpose of sending this series.
> 
> That said, I think that including it here is still worthwhile, since the
> cases where performance really suffers (e.g., `git cat-file
> --batch-all-objects --batch-check='%(objectsize:disk)'`) isn't something
> that GitHub runs regularly if at all.
> 
> To accommodate different workflows, I think having the option to opt-out
> of reading the on-disk ".rev" files is worthwhile.

The only thing I can think of that would actually use this kind of
behavior is git-sizer, but even that doesn't actually report the on-disk
size (yet) and instead inflates all deltas when reporting size counts. The
difference in performance here is likely minimal for that tool.
 
>> This was an easy series to read. I applied the patches locally and poked
>> around in the resulting code as I went along. This led to a couple places
>> where I recommend a few changes, including a new patch that wires
>> repository pointers through a few more method layers.
> 
> Thanks for taking a look. Based on your review, there are only a couple
> of things on my mind:
> 
>   - I amended the last patch to more clearly state when we would want to
>     run the suite GIT_TEST_NO_WRITE_REV_INDEXES=1 set, and kept it in
>     the linux-TEST-vars configuration.

I think this is the right thing to do. Thanks.

>   - How do you want to handle that extra patch? As I noted in [1], I
>     think squashing the two together in one way or another makes sense.
>     So really we have to figure out (a) if you think that is the right
>     way to go, and (b) if so, how to handle attribution / the commit
>     message.

Squashing makes sense. You could make me a co-author, or not. It's the
natural thing to do once the problem to solve is identified.

Thanks,
-Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-12 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-10 22:53 [PATCH 0/7] pack-revindex: enable on-disk reverse indexes by default Taylor Blau
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 1/7] pack-write.c: plug a leak in stage_tmp_packfiles() Taylor Blau
2023-04-11 13:23   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-11 21:25     ` Taylor Blau
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 2/7] t5325: mark as leak-free Taylor Blau
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 3/7] pack-revindex: make `load_pack_revindex` take a repository Taylor Blau
2023-04-11 13:45   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-11 21:30     ` Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 17:33       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 4/7] pack-revindex: introduce GIT_TEST_REV_INDEX_DIE_ON_DISK Taylor Blau
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] pack-revindex: introduce `pack.readReverseIndex` Taylor Blau
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 6/7] config: enable `pack.writeReverseIndex` by default Taylor Blau
2023-04-13 16:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-04-10 22:53 ` [PATCH 7/7] t: invert `GIT_TEST_WRITE_REV_INDEX` Taylor Blau
2023-04-11 13:51   ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-11 21:33     ` Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 17:37       ` Derrick Stolee
2023-04-11 13:54 ` [PATCH 0/7] pack-revindex: enable on-disk reverse indexes by default Derrick Stolee
2023-04-11 21:40   ` Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 17:39     ` Derrick Stolee [this message]
2023-04-12 22:20 ` [PATCH v2 " Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] pack-write.c: plug a leak in stage_tmp_packfiles() Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] t5325: mark as leak-free Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] pack-revindex: make `load_pack_revindex` take a repository Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] pack-revindex: introduce GIT_TEST_REV_INDEX_DIE_ON_DISK Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] pack-revindex: introduce `pack.readReverseIndex` Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] config: enable `pack.writeReverseIndex` by default Taylor Blau
2023-04-12 22:20   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] t: invert `GIT_TEST_WRITE_REV_INDEX` Taylor Blau
2023-04-13 13:40   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] pack-revindex: enable on-disk reverse indexes by default Derrick Stolee

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