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From: Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk,
	Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Cc: gitster@pobox.com, james@jamesliu.io,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] git: add --no-hooks global option
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:29:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5632198-9e04-4302-a3c9-1cbf0f0cad65@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cb3d080b-51a3-4096-9650-34ec4ed68f1d@gmail.com>

Hi Stolee

On 14/04/2025 11:59, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> On 4/4/2025 10:15 AM, Phillip Wood wrote:
>> On 03/04/2025 23:38, Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget wrote:
>>> From: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> To that end, add a new --no-hooks global option to allow users to
>>> disable hooks quickly. This option is modeled similarly to the
>>> --no-advice option in b79deeb554 (advice: add --no-advice global option,
>>> 2024-05-03). This uses a GIT_HOOKS environment variable to communicate
>>> to subprocesses as well as making this a backwards-compatible way for
>>> tools to signal that they want to disable hooks.
>>>
>>> The critical piece is that all hooks pass through run_hooks_opt() where
>>> a static int will evaluate the environment variable and store that the
>>> variable is initialized for faster repeated runs.
>>
>> That certainly makes the implementation much more viable. However I'm
>> not really convinced this is a good idea.
> 
> I don't read a strong reason in your message that this is a _bad_
> idea either. As in, there's nothing that hints that this will cause
> significant harm to users other than providing a new footgun (and we
> have plenty of those for folks willing to look, including the
> _existence_ of hooks).

It is certainly not a terrible idea given that it is possible to disable 
hooks already but I'm not clear what the motivation is. I don't find the 
example of a skipping a pre-commit hook persuasive as we already provide 
a convenient way for users to skip that hook. Elsewhere in this thread 
you mention the "pre-command" and "post-command" hooks but they are not 
part of git - if a fork is running its own hooks and that is causing 
problems for users I'm not sure we want to change the upstream project 
to address that. If there was a clearer motivation it would be easier to 
understand the benefits of this change.

Best Wishes

Phillip


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-03 22:38 [PATCH] git: add --no-hooks global option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-04-03 22:55 ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-04  0:40   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-04-04 14:15 ` Phillip Wood
2025-04-14 10:59   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-04-16 10:29     ` Phillip Wood [this message]
2025-04-16 14:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-16 15:30         ` Derrick Stolee
2025-04-14 15:25   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-04-14 21:05     ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-11 18:53 ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-04-16 15:42 ` [PATCH v2] docs: document core.hooksPath=/dev/null Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2025-04-16 16:53   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-04-17  0:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-04-17  0:39       ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-17  3:42         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-17 16:02       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro

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