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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Peter Seiderer <ps.report@gmx.net>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org>,
	Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] meson: prefer POSIX-specified shell path
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 13:52:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAt3Yc1NVZxsvSVX@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAtopiMkJpF2RdjG@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net>

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:49:10AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On 2025-04-25 at 05:47:45, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > Meson detects the path of the target shell via `find_program("sh")`,
> > which essentially does a lookup via `PATH`. This may easily lead to a
> > subtly-broken Git distribution when the build host has its shell in a
> > non-standard location that the target host doesn't know about.
> > 
> > Fix the issue by appending "/bin" to the custom program path, which
> > causes us to prefer "/bin/sh" over a `PATH` lookup. As this location is
> > specified by POSIX this should make us pick a better default shell path
> > on all POSIX-compliant systems.
> 
> Can you provide a citation for that?  I don't see that in the POSIX
> 1003.1-2024 directory structure document[0].  More specifically, I think
> there are some proprietary Unix systems where `/bin/sh` is the original
> Bourne shell and is not POSIX compliant and some other path is the
> POSIX-compliant `sh`.

Hrmpf, you're right. I feel like I relearn this piece of trivia every
couple years. POSIX is quite specific here:

    Applications should note that the standard PATH to the shell cannot
    be assumed to be either /bin/sh or /usr/bin/sh, and should be
    determined by interrogation of the PATH returned by getconf PATH ,
    ensuring that the returned pathname is an absolute pathname and not
    a shell built-in.

Anyway, given the following...

> I'll also point out that we require more than POSIX compliance in that
> we require `local`, so even if `/bin/sh` is POSIX compliant, that
> doesn't mean that it's suitable for Git.  `/bin/sh` meets our needs on
> all the Linux distros I'm aware of, plus the BSDs, but if it were AT&T
> ksh, that would not meet our needs since it doesn't support `local`,
> even though it's POSIX compliant.

... prefering "/bin/sh" is still the right thing to do as it tends to
work on most systems supported by us, even though it's non-POSIX. But in
any case, the commit message needs to be adjusted.

Thanks!

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-25 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24 13:38 [PATCH 0/2] meson: prefer '/bin/sh' over PATH lookup Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-24 13:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] meson: report detected runtime executable paths Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  0:45   ` Eli Schwartz
2025-04-25  5:21     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25 16:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-24 13:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] meson: prefer POSIX-specified shell path Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-24 20:18   ` Justin Tobler
2025-04-25  5:21     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-24 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] meson: prefer '/bin/sh' over PATH lookup Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25  5:21   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  5:47 ` [PATCH v2 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  5:47   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] meson: report detected runtime executable paths Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  8:27     ` Toon Claes
2025-04-25  5:47   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] meson: prefer POSIX-specified shell path Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25  8:35     ` Toon Claes
2025-04-25 10:49     ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-25 11:52       ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-04-25 11:24   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] meson: prefer '/bin/sh' over PATH lookup Toon Claes
2025-04-25 14:11 ` [PATCH v3 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25 14:11   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] meson: report detected runtime executable paths Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25 14:11   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] meson: prefer shell at "/bin/sh" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-04-25 17:04     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 18:07       ` Eli Schwartz
2025-04-25 18:51         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-04-25 22:21           ` Eli Schwartz
2025-04-25 20:10         ` brian m. carlson
2025-04-25 22:25           ` Eli Schwartz
2025-04-25 20:13     ` brian m. carlson
2025-05-02 21:16   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] meson: prefer '/bin/sh' over PATH lookup Junio C Hamano
2025-05-02 22:37     ` Eli Schwartz
2025-05-05  6:08       ` Patrick Steinhardt

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