From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: shejialuo <shejialuo@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] packed-backend: fsck should allow an empty "packed-refs" file
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 10:36:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCGzIlLH_ESNg6-v@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCCtx2mqihlc0M7H@ArchLinux>
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 10:01:43PM +0800, shejialuo wrote:
> During fsck, an empty "packed-refs" gives an error; this is unwarranted.
> We should just skip checking the content of "packed-refs" just like the
> runtime code paths such as "create_snapshot" which simply returns the
> "snapshot" without checking the content of "packed-refs".
I think this doesn't quite answer the question whether this is a _good_
idea though. The question that we need to answer is whether there are
any writing code paths that may end up writing a "packed-refs" file that
is completely empty. Modern Git would at least write the packed-refs
header, wouldn't it?
The reason why I'm a little sceptical is that there is a common problem
with ext4 caused by its delayed allocation [1]. If you:
1. Write data to a temporary file.
2. Rename the file into place.
3. The host system crashes.
Then it may happen that the renamed file is now completely empty.
The root cause is a bug in the application: before renaming the file
into place it _must_ fsync the file to disk. Git does that by default,
but it is extremely easy to get wrong and we had bugs around this until
~2 years ago, if I remember correctly. We hit the problem several times
in our production systems.
So I wonder whether ignoring empty files would cause us to miss such a
common error. But I guess if there are valid cases where we may end up
with an empty "packed-refs" file we cannot do anything about it.
Patrick
[1]: https://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/03/12/delayed-allocation-and-the-zero-length-file-problem/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-12 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 16:39 [PATCH 0/4] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" shejialuo
2025-05-06 16:41 ` [PATCH 1/4] packed-backend: skip checking consistency of empty packed-refs file shejialuo
2025-05-06 18:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 12:09 ` shejialuo
2025-05-06 19:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 12:10 ` shejialuo
2025-05-06 16:41 ` [PATCH 2/4] packed-backend: extract snapshot allocation in `load_contents` shejialuo
2025-05-06 19:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 16:41 ` [PATCH 3/4] packed-backend: extract munmap operation for `MMAP_TEMPORARY` shejialuo
2025-05-06 18:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 22:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 12:21 ` shejialuo
2025-05-06 16:41 ` [PATCH 4/4] packed-backend: use mmap when opening large "packed-refs" file shejialuo
2025-05-06 19:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 22:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-07 12:34 ` shejialuo
2025-05-07 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" shejialuo
2025-05-07 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] packed-backend: fsck should allow an empty "packed-refs" file shejialuo
2025-05-07 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] packed-backend: extract snapshot allocation in `load_contents` shejialuo
2025-05-07 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] packed-backend: extract munmap operation for `MMAP_TEMPORARY` shejialuo
2025-05-08 19:57 ` Jeff King
2025-05-08 20:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 15:03 ` shejialuo
2025-05-07 14:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] packed-backend: mmap large "packed-refs" file during fsck shejialuo
2025-05-08 20:07 ` Jeff King
2025-05-09 15:21 ` shejialuo
2025-05-09 15:59 ` Jeff King
2025-05-09 16:40 ` shejialuo
2025-05-07 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 20:08 ` Jeff King
2025-05-08 20:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-08 20:33 ` Jeff King
2025-05-09 15:26 ` shejialuo
2025-05-11 13:59 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " shejialuo
2025-05-11 14:01 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] packed-backend: fsck should allow an empty "packed-refs" file shejialuo
2025-05-12 8:36 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-05-12 12:25 ` shejialuo
2025-05-12 14:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 15:56 ` Jeff King
2025-05-12 17:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-13 5:08 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 7:06 ` shejialuo
2025-05-11 14:01 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] packed-backend: extract snapshot allocation in `load_contents` shejialuo
2025-05-12 8:37 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 10:35 ` shejialuo
2025-05-12 14:41 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 13:06 ` Jeff King
2025-05-13 6:55 ` shejialuo
2025-05-11 14:01 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] packed-backend: mmap large "packed-refs" file during fsck shejialuo
2025-05-12 13:08 ` Jeff King
2025-05-13 11:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" shejialuo
2025-05-13 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] packed-backend: fsck should warn when "packed-refs" file is empty shejialuo
2025-05-13 16:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 12:51 ` shejialuo
2025-05-13 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] packed-backend: extract snapshot allocation in `load_contents` shejialuo
2025-05-13 11:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] packed-backend: mmap large "packed-refs" file during fsck shejialuo
2025-05-13 16:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 13:05 ` shejialuo
2025-05-14 15:48 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" shejialuo
2025-05-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] packed-backend: fsck should warn when "packed-refs" file is empty shejialuo
2025-05-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] packed-backend: extract snapshot allocation in `load_contents` shejialuo
2025-05-14 15:50 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] packed-backend: mmap large "packed-refs" file during fsck shejialuo
2025-05-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] align the behavior when opening "packed-refs" Junio C Hamano
2025-05-21 16:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-22 5:50 ` Jeff King
2025-05-23 9:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-23 15:58 ` Junio C Hamano
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