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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	BERENDSEN Arnoud <arnoud.berendsen@soprasteria.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Cleaning up "contrib/"
Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 11:06:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCMLgaWXr_gM8g3l@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCKOqs52TDZDvAXJ@tapette.crustytoothpaste.net>

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 12:13:30AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On 2025-05-12 at 13:50:17, Jeff King wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 07:40:39AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > 
> > > Other than that we also have some bits and pieces that _are_ actively
> > > maintained, but that just don't have a better place to live:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > >   - Diff-highlight.
> > >   - git-jump.
> > 
> > These two are due to me. I don't have a problem moving them into their
> > own projects if we want to clean out contrib.
> > 
> > I think diff-highlight is something that _should_ eventually happen
> > inside git-diff itself (because it would be more efficient and we could
> > do a better job). But it wouldn't share any implementation with what's
> > in contrib/.
> 
> I think there are definitely users of diff-highlight.  I remember seeing
> a reference to it recently and not realizing it was in contrib, but it
> is actually used by others.  I don't use it myself, though.

Yup, diff-highlight is something I see recommended quite often.

> > >   - Credential helpers.
> > 
> > These ones are tricky. In theory they could be spun off into their own
> > projects, and we already have examples in the wild of things like GCM
> > which are maintained totally separately.
> > 
> > But I think we may need to find people to step up as maintainers. In
> > particular, I think osxkeychain is probably used by a lot of people, and
> > probably shouldn't just go away. But I don't know how the maintainer
> > would be. I wrote it originally, but don't (and never did) use it
> > myself, or even have access to a macOS machine.
> 
> These are often shipped by distributors.  Apple ships osxkeychain, as
> does Homebrew.  Many Linux distros ship libsecret and it's the
> recommended choice for desktop Linux.
> 
> wincred, while not super popular, is still used and is smaller and
> lighter than GCM.  It doesn't actually look like GCM is seeing a great
> deal of maintenance either at this point, so I'd say they're about
> equally well maintained.  Since I don't use Windows, I don't know if
> there are other usecases (such as noninteractive uses) that are better
> supported by wincred, but I'd recommend keeping it.
> 
> I definitely want us to keep these somewhere since they are quite
> commonly used (even wincred) and getting rid of them will break a lot of
> people and leave them without a secure credential storage option.  We
> could promote them to the main repository and simply build them with a
> Makefile knob (or by default on the appropriate platform) and in CI, in
> which case we'd at least know they build.
> 
> I'm not volunteering to be _the_ maintainer for libsecret, but I will
> definitely contribute to making it work since I use it.  This is much
> like I am not _the_ maintainer for making Git work with Kerberos, but I
> do certainly often fix it should it break.

Yup. I think safe credential helpers should rather be moved into our
official tree. This includes at least libsecret and osxkeychain. I'm not
sure about the netrc one though -- it's unsafe by nature, and I'm not
sure I would feel comfortable with shipping such a credential helper
that is known-unsafe.

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-13  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-02 13:59 git svn clone failed BERENDSEN Arnoud
2025-05-04  8:19 ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-05-05  6:24   ` Cleaning up "contrib/" (was: git svn clone failed) Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-05  7:36     ` Johannes Schindelin
2025-05-05  9:44       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-05 19:10     ` Cleaning up "contrib/" Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06  5:40       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 13:50         ` Jeff King
2025-05-13  0:13           ` brian m. carlson
2025-05-13  9:06             ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-05-13 16:59               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-14 18:19             ` Jeff King
2025-05-14 20:05               ` Junio C Hamano

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