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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 14:44:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDRiLdUCEVQHq26z@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqwma7w29o.fsf@gitster.g>

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:33:23PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Ramsay Jones <ramsay@ramsayjones.plus.com> writes:
> 
> > Question: should meson (or indeed prove) fail the test because of an
> > unexpected _pass_?
> 
> Yes, it is a very good question.  I do not mind if the answer is "it
> should, and the make and prove shouldn't let unexpected pass go
> unnoticed".  The difference between the build systems bothers me

Indeed, a good question. The TAP specification [1] has this to say:

    Should a todo test point begin succeeding, the harness may report it
    in some way that indicates that whatever was supposed to be done has
    been, and it should be promoted to a normal Test Point.

    Harnesses must not treat failing TODO test points as a test failure.

    Harneses should report TODO test points found as a list of items
    needing work, if that is appropriate for their use case.

So if my reading of this is correct then Meson isn't wrong in reporting
this as an error -- "in some way" basically gives it full permission to
do so. So this is plain old undefined behaviour we rely on :/

I don't think it's inherently a bad thing to fail on unexpected passes.
After all, it shows that our assumption that the test fails is broken,
and that we should have a look why that is. But I can see arguments both
ways.

The pragmatic solution would be to just fix the unexpected pass and then
proceed with wiring up TAP support.

Patrick

https://testanything.org/tap-version-14-specification.html

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-26 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 10:59 [PATCH 0/4] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 10:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] t: fix cases where output breaks TAP format Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 13:17   ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-07  6:52     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 10:12       ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-14 18:51   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-06 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] t/test-lib: don't print shell traces to stdout Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] meson: introduce kwargs variable for tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-15  7:39   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-06 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-15  7:48   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-15  8:20     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-15 11:35       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-06 12:29 ` [PATCH 0/4] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  7:06   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-21 10:57 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-21 11:56   ` Hridoy Ahmed
2025-05-21 16:06   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-21 21:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-23 10:03       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-23 15:00         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-23 15:58           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-23 16:40             ` Ramsay Jones
2025-05-23 16:53               ` Ramsay Jones
2025-05-23 19:33               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-26 12:44                 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-05-26 13:31                   ` Phillip Wood
2025-05-26 14:23                     ` Todd Zullinger
2025-05-26 13:54                   ` Eli Schwartz
2025-05-26 13:59                     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 16:04                       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-28 12:27                         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 13:36                   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-27 14:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] t: fix cases where output breaks TAP format Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 19:47     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-28 15:55       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-28 20:14         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-30  7:50           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] t/test-lib: don't print shell traces to stdout Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 19:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-28 15:55       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] t/test-lib: fix TAP format for BASH_XTRACEFD warning Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] t7815: fix unexpectedly passing test on macOS Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] meson: introduce kwargs variable for tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 14:02   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] t: stop announcing prereqs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-31 21:00     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] t: silence output from `test_create_repo()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 21:16     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] t9822: use prereq to check for ISO-8859-1 support Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] t983*: use prereq to check for Python-specific git-b4(1) support Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 14:08     ` Todd Zullinger
2025-05-30 14:21       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] t/test-lib: don't print shell traces to stdout Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-31 21:21     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] t/test-lib: fix TAP format for BASH_XTRACEFD warning Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-31 21:25     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] t7815: fix unexpectedly passing test on macOS Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-31 21:28     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-01  9:19     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-06-02  6:19       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] test-lib: fail on unexpectedly passing tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] meson: introduce kwargs variable for tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-30 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-31 21:37   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] " Karthik Nayak
2025-06-02  6:44 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 01/10] t: stop announcing prereqs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 02/10] t: silence output from `test_create_repo()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 03/10] t9822: use prereq to check for ISO-8859-1 support Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 04/10] t983*: use prereq to check for Python-specific git-p4(1) support Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 05/10] t/test-lib: don't print shell traces to stdout Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 06/10] t/test-lib: fix TAP format for BASH_XTRACEFD warning Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 07/10] t7815: fix unexpectedly passing test on macOS Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 08/10] test-lib: fail on unexpectedly passing tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 09/10] meson: introduce kwargs variable for tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  6:44   ` [PATCH v4 10/10] meson: parse TAP output generated by our tests Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02  7:40   ` [PATCH v4 00/10] " Karthik Nayak

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