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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Toon Claes <toon@iotcl.com>
Cc: Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_alternate`
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 11:39:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDl8vjzdCJKoKXY0@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cybs3mch.fsf@iotcl.com>

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 03:18:22PM +0200, Toon Claes wrote:
> Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > That's fair. Between `odb_backend` and `odb_alternate`, I would probably
> > still prefer the former, but ultimately I'll acclimate to whatever is
> > choosen. :)
> >
> > -Justin
> 
> I feel you. But speaking as a non-native English-speaking person, I can
> settle for "alternate" because I can still wire my brain to give it the
> meaning we're using here.
> 
> But if you like another name, I want to steer away from "backend" as
> well. As mentioned elsewhere, a "backend" sounds like an implementation
> of an object database, not the instance of an odb. But I'm open to other
> suggestions. I've been browsing thesaurus for a bit, unfortunately I
> didn't find anything better.

This ultimately _will_ host the backend implementations -- every
alternate is backed by one specific backend. The problem why we still
wanted to steer away from "backend" is that `odb_backend` rather sounds
as if the complete object database has one backend that can be switched.
That's why we settled on "alternate" instead, to clarify that there is
not a 1:1 relationship between the object database and the respective
backends.

`odb_source` does not have the same problem as `odb_backend`, so I
definitely think it's a way better name. But the reason why I think that
"alternate" is the better name is that I think it will get quite
confusing if we have both the terms "alternate" and "source". It would
make some of the interfaces quite awkward because it wouldn't always be
clear what exactly we are handling at any point in time.

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 11:09 [PATCH 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  0:47   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-07 15:27     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_backend` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  0:51   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-07  1:00     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-09 11:25       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 18:06   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:10   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-09 11:25     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 07/17] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:12   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-09 11:25     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:14   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:21   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-09 11:25     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-12 18:28       ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary backend Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule backends Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:25   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-07  1:29     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:25   ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-07 16:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 11:25       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-06 11:09 ` [PATCH 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07  1:40 ` [PATCH 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Derrick Stolee
2025-05-07 17:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 11:25     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 11:25   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 19:28     ` Toon Claes
2025-05-14  4:31       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-07 23:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 14:12 ` [PATCH v2 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 19:27     ` Toon Claes
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_alternate` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 19:28     ` Toon Claes
2025-05-14  4:31       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-13 19:28     ` Toon Claes
2025-05-14  4:31       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14 12:58       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 07/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `odb_mkstemp()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary alternate Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 14:12   ` [PATCH v2 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-09 21:43   ` [PATCH v2 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Junio C Hamano
2025-05-12 18:33     ` Derrick Stolee
2025-05-14  5:12 ` [PATCH v3 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-22 21:59     ` Justin Tobler
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_alternate` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-22 22:13     ` Justin Tobler
2025-05-26  5:45       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-27 16:45         ` Justin Tobler
2025-05-28 13:18           ` Toon Claes
2025-05-30  9:39             ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-05-30  9:39           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 07/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `odb_mkstemp()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary alternate Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14  5:12   ` [PATCH v3 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-05-14 14:48   ` [PATCH v3 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Toon Claes
2025-05-15  8:22     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-04  8:55     ` Toon Claes
2025-06-04 11:52       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_source` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-04 13:24     ` Toon Claes
2025-06-04 13:55       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 07/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `odb_mkstemp()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary source Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule sources Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 10:27   ` [PATCH v4 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-02 15:38   ` [PATCH v4 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Junio C Hamano
2025-06-05  6:46 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_source` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  2:02     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-01 12:17       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  2:34     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-01 12:17       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  2:36     ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 07/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `odb_mkstemp()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  2:56     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-01 12:18       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:46   ` [PATCH v5 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary source Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule sources Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  3:14     ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-05  6:47   ` [PATCH v5 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-30  3:15     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-01 12:22 ` [PATCH v6 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 01/17] object-store: rename `raw_object_store` to `object_database` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 02/17] object-store: rename `object_directory` to `odb_source` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 03/17] object-store: rename files to "odb.{c,h}" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 04/17] odb: introduce parent pointers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 05/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `find_odb()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 06/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `assert_oid_type()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 07/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `odb_mkstemp()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 08/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling alternates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 09/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` in `for_each()` functions Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 10/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling the primary source Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 11/17] odb: get rid of `the_repository` when handling submodule sources Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 12/17] odb: trivial refactorings to get rid of `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 13/17] odb: rename `oid_object_info()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 14/17] odb: rename `repo_read_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 15/17] odb: rename `has_object()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 16/17] odb: rename `pretend_object_file()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 12:22   ` [PATCH v6 17/17] odb: rename `read_object_with_reference()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-01 14:26   ` [PATCH v6 00/17] object-store: carve out the object database subsystem Justin Tobler

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