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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Lucas Seiki Oshiro <lucasseikioshiro@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, karthik.188@gmail.com, ben.knoble@gmail.com,
	gitster@pobox.com, Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>,
	Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 1/7] repo-info: declare the repo-info command
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 08:01:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGtiyGW4MIYUw3Ed@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AD2EE71A-1395-4665-BB9C-38DD4B941574@gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 06:40:11PM -0300, Lucas Seiki Oshiro wrote:
> 
> > One thing I wondered: Justin is currently iterating on git-survey(1),
> > which is the command Stolee proposed a while ago to gather repository
> > metrics.
> 
> I didn't find it in the mailing list, but I remember seeing it in the
> the GitLab's fork. Is it this unmerged MR? 
> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git/-/merge_requests/369

Yup. It's been posted to the mailing list as part of [1].

> > Would it make sense to maybe have such whole-repo commands
> > grouped together in a `git repo` top-level command? E.g. `git repo info`
> > for your command, `git repo size` to gather information about the repo
> > size.
> 
> It seems to be very nice for me! In fact, this being a home also for
> statistics is something I considered while writing the first versions of
> my GSoC proposal.
> 
> And what about merging the two codes into a single API? Something like:
> 
> ```
> git repo-info layout.bare references.format survey.commit-count
> {
>   "layout": {
>     "bare": true
>   },
>   "references": {
>     "format": "files"
>   },
>   "survey": {
>     "commit-count": 42
>   }
> }
> 
> ?

We could in theory do that. But there's two things we need to be
cautious about:

  1. We should be mindful about what specifically this tool is about. It
     shouldn't become the next tool that does way too many different
     things.

  2. One of the idea of git-survey(1) is to eventually replace
     git-sizer(1). This will require very specific presentation formats
     that aren't really compatible with any of the other information.

Out of these two I think the second item is the more important one why
git-survey(1) should exist as a standalone tool, either as a top-level
command or as a subcommand.

> During our meetings, Karthik suggested (I'm planning to it later) to also
> allow to request an entire category instead of only the fields. Then, this
> would also be possible:
> 
> ```
> $ git repo-info survey
> {
>   "survey": {
>     "commit-count": 42,
>     "blob-count": 1234
> }
> ```

It raises another question though: if we ever were to add `--all` we'll
need to step a bit careful about what kind of information we add to this
tool. All of the information proposed so far can be computed rather
trivially. But computing repository sizes has way higher computational
complexity and may easily take seconds, maybe even minutes in large
repositories.

That to me further points into the direction of giving those two tools a
common top-level command (`git repo info`, `git repo survey`), but to
not mix concerns too much with one another.

> But I don't know what are Justin's plans for git-survey, if it would be a
> porcelain command for showing those stats to the user of if it is targeted
> for being parsed like this `repo-info`.
> 
> I'm just brainstorming because I liked the idea :-)

I've already pinged him on this and he liked the idea of having a common
top-level command. I guess he'll respond later today or this week.

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 226+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 15:21 [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 1/5] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11  8:59   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 2/5] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11  9:30   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 17:56     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-13  7:31       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 3/5] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 12:59   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 15:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 4/5] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 13:13   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-12 19:39     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-12 19:53       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-10 15:21 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 5/5] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-10 16:39 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-06-10 16:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-12 20:25   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-12 21:01     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-16 22:19       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-16 22:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-19  1:44           ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-11 13:17 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-19 22:57 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/7] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 1/7] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20  7:36     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20 23:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23  9:19         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23 19:04       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20  7:56     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-24 14:03     ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-03 11:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-04 21:40       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-07  6:01         ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-07-09 20:05           ` Justin Tobler
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 2/7] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20  8:06     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-20 21:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-03 11:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 3/7] repo-info: add plaintext as an output format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 21:37     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-03 11:32     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 4/7] repo-info: add the --allow-empty flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20  9:54     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23  2:39       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 21:39     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-23  9:26       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-06-23 20:28         ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 5/7] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-20 22:26     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-24 14:03     ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-24 15:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-06-25  8:40         ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-03 11:32     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-04 21:11       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 6/7] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-03 11:32     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-03 14:14       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-04  8:32         ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-19 22:57   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 7/7] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-23 13:42   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v2 0/7] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Phillip Wood
2025-06-23 18:49     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-06-24 13:03       ` Phillip Wood
2025-06-24 13:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 22:18         ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-02  9:10           ` phillip.wood123
2025-07-06 23:19 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 0/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 1/5] repo-info: declare the repo-info command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 2/5] repo-info: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 3/5] repo-info: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 4/5] repo-info: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-06 23:19   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 5/5] repo-info: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-08 10:11   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v3 0/5] repo-info: add new command for retrieving repository info Phillip Wood
2025-07-08 19:27     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-10 13:15       ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-11 17:13   ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-11 17:37     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-14 23:52 ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 0/4] repo: " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-14 23:52   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 1/4] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 11:52     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-15 11:59     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-15 18:38       ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-20 19:51       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 18:19     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-14 23:52   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 2/4] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 11:59     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-18 19:13       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 12:23     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-15 19:15     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-16  5:38       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-16 14:04         ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-17 13:03           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-17 16:06             ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-18 20:26               ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-21 14:41                 ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-14 23:52   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 3/4] repo: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-14 23:52   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 4/4] repo: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-15 10:34   ` [GSoC RFC PATCH v4 0/4] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-07-15 11:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-15 12:20       ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-07-15 19:36       ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-15 16:49     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-17 10:25       ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-07-17 10:42         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-16 20:20   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-16 20:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-21 22:05     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  0:28 ` [GSoC PATCH v5 0/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  0:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  9:03     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-22 15:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-23 16:28         ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-23 17:48           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-24  6:22         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 16:06           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-25  5:10             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-26 21:54           ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-28 17:56             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-23 15:49       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-23 20:03     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-07-22  0:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  9:16     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-22 19:25     ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-23 14:53       ` Phillip Wood
2025-07-23 17:44         ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-23 18:26       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-24  6:22     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22  0:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 3/5] repo: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  0:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 4/5] repo: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  0:28   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-22  9:26     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24  6:22     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-27 17:51 ` [GSoC PATCH v5 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 17:51   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 20:20     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-27 17:51   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 21:16     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-31 19:39       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-29  9:35     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-31 19:49       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 17:51   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 3/5] repo: add field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 17:51   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 4/5] repo: add field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 21:45     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-27 17:51   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 22:02     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-29  0:15       ` Ben Knoble
2025-07-29  0:27         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-29  0:38           ` Ben Knoble
2025-07-29  0:39           ` Eric Sunshine
2025-07-31 23:01       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-31 23:15     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-07-27 20:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v5 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Eric Sunshine
2025-07-29  9:35     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 15:26     ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 13:11 ` [GSoC PATCH v7 " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 13:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 13:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 20:59     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-03 21:47       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 13:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 21:21     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-03 22:54       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-03 23:06         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-05 12:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 13:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-05 12:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 13:11   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-01 19:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-01 20:27     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-01 21:50     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-05 12:50     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 12:50   ` [GSoC PATCH v7 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 19:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v8 " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-06 19:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-06 19:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07  7:43     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-06 19:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07  5:20     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 19:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-06 19:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07  5:20     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 15:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06 22:38   ` [GSoC PATCH v8 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Junio C Hamano
2025-08-07  7:48   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-07 15:02 ` [GSoC PATCH v9 " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 1/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-11  5:12     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-11 14:41     ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-11 15:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-13 21:18       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-13 21:46         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-13 22:24           ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-14 13:58           ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-07 15:02   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-11  5:21     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-14 18:22       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-14 18:32         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-14 18:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14 22:05             ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-15  1:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14 22:18             ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-14 23:41               ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-07 15:02   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-07 15:02   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-11  5:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-08-08  5:45   ` [GSoC PATCH v9 0/5] repo: add new command for retrieving repository info Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-08 15:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08  9:20   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-15 13:55 ` [GSoC PATCH v10 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v10 1/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v10 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 18:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 19:12       ` Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v10 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 13:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v10 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 19:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 13:55   ` [GSoC PATCH v10 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-15 19:23     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-16 22:45 ` [GSoC PATCH v11 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:45   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 1/5] " Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 2/5] repo: add the field references.format Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 3/5] repo: add the field layout.bare Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 4/5] repo: add the field layout.shallow Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-16 22:46   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 5/5] repo: add the --format flag Lucas Seiki Oshiro
2025-08-17 16:21   ` [GSoC PATCH v11 0/5] repo: declare the repo command Junio C Hamano

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