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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Justin Tobler <jltobler@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 09:42:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIHj-KBiD7hjOCNF@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <j52ugdtik25i6dqgqafchvy5an3o7qbdfeavtqg6bcr2ouxvyv@qwtqzf7xk4hi>

On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 03:31:01PM -0500, Justin Tobler wrote:
> On 25/07/22 01:20PM, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > The `REF_HAVE_OLD` flag indicates whether a given ref update has its old
> > object ID set. If so, the value of that field is used to verify whteher
> 
> s/whteher/whether/
> 
> > the current state of the reference matches this expected state. It is
> > thus an important part of mitigating races with a concurrent process
> > that updates the same set of references.
> > 
> > When writing reflogs though we explicitly unset that flag. This is a
> > sensible thing to do: the old state of reflog entry updates may not
> > necessarily match the current on-disk state of its accompanying ref, but
> > it's only intended to signal what old object ID we want to write into
> > the new reflog entry. For example when migrating refs we end up writing
> > many reflog entries for a single reference, and most likely those reflog
> > entries will have many different old object IDs.
> > 
> > But unsetting this flag also removes a useful signal, namely that the
> > caller _did_ provide an old object ID for a given reflog entry. This
> > signal is useful to determine whether we have to resolve the refname
> > manually to figure out the current state, or whether we should just go
> > with what the caller has provided.
> > 
> > This actually causes real issues when migrating reflogs, as we don't
> > know to actually use the caller-provided old object ID when writing
> > those entries. Instead, reflog entries simply end up with the all-zero
> > object ID.
> 
> Ok, if I'm understanding this correctly, the `REF_HAVE_OLD` flag is also
> required to actually record a provided old OID in the reflog entry. If it
> is not set, a NUL OID is recorded instead.

This fix is not sufficient to record the old object ID, so the commit
message is indeed misleading as it comes from a previous iteration of
this patch seires.

I want to have this signal so that in the next commit we can assert that
if the new `REF_LOG_USE_PROVIDED_OIDS` is set, that the caller also sets
both `REF_HAVE_OLD` and `REF_HAVE_NEW`. So this commit here isn't really
required anymore, but I think it's the right thing to do anyway, and the
additional safety check isn't too bad to have in my opinion.

I'll rewrite the commit message a bit.

> > Stop unsetting the flag so that we can use it as this described signal,
> > which we'll do in a subsequent commit. Skip checking the old object ID
> > for log-only updates so that we don't expect it to match the current
> > on-disk state.
> 
> Just to clarify, when migrating reflogs, are these operations always
> marked with `REF_LOG_ONLY`? The comment for that flag states:
> 
>   Used as a flag in ref_update::flags when we want to log a ref
>   update but not actually perform it.  This is used when a symbolic ref
>   update is split up.                                           
> 
> I might be misunderstanding this though.

The comment is out of date indeed. When queueing reflog updates we use
`ref_transaction_update_reflog()`, which sets the following flags:

  - REF_HAVE_OLD and REF_HAVE_NEW to indicate the object IDs.

  - REF_LOG_ONLY to skip writing the reference itself.

  - REF_FORCE_CREATE_REFLOG to disable heuristics whether or not the
    reflog entry should be written in the first place.

  - REF_NO_DEREF to not write the reflog for the target of a potential
    symref, but for the symref itself.

  - REF_LOG_USE_PROVIDED_OIDS to actually use the provided object IDs
    and not try to resolve state.

It's an awful lot of flags, and I tried to work on a solution where we
don't have to introduce the new flag. But the logic here is so intricate
that it always caused unintended side effects.

Thanks for your review!

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-24  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22 11:20 [PATCH 0/8] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 22:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 18:14   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 16:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 18:25   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  8:36   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 12:55   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 19:00   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 12:54   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-25  5:36     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 16:20   ` SZEDER Gábor
2025-07-24 21:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-25  5:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25 14:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 19:41   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24  9:41   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 12:56   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 20:31   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-07-24 10:21   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 11:35     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 22:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-23  4:04     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-28 15:33     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-28 18:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-28 20:39         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-28 20:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-30  7:55             ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-29  0:25       ` Ben Knoble
2025-07-29  6:14         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-29  6:51         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 15:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-30  5:33             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 10:33               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25 11:36     ` Jeff King
2025-07-28 14:43       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  7:14         ` Jeff King
2025-07-29  7:54           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 11:38     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  7:37       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 16:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-01 11:37     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  7:38       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 16:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-01 11:55     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-02 11:11     ` Jeff King
2025-08-04  7:38       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 14:47         ` Jeff King
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 15:38     ` Jeff King
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 17:04     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05 21:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06  5:53         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 18:47   ` [PATCH v5 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Jeff King
2025-08-06  5:53     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54 ` [PATCH v6 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt

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