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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Karthik Nayak" <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	"Justin Tobler" <jltobler@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Toon Claes" <toon@iotcl.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:43:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIeMgE-11UnAJINI@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250725113610.GA3015361@coredump.intra.peff.net>

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 07:36:10AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 08:58:29AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> 
> > The `REF_HAVE_OLD` flag indicates whether a given ref update has its old
> > object ID set. If so, the value of that field is used to verify whether
> > the current state of the reference matches this expected state. It is
> > thus an important part of mitigating races with a concurrent process
> > that updates the same set of references.
> > 
> > When writing reflogs though we explicitly unset that flag. This is a
> > sensible thing to do: the old state of reflog entry updates may not
> > necessarily match the current on-disk state of its accompanying ref, but
> > it's only intended to signal what old object ID we want to write into
> > the new reflog entry. For example when migrating refs we end up writing
> > many reflog entries for a single reference, and most likely those reflog
> > entries will have many different old object IDs.
> > 
> > But unsetting this flag also removes a useful signal, namely that the
> > caller _did_ provide an old object ID for a given reflog entry. This
> > signal will become useful in a subsequent commit, where we add a new
> > flag that tells the transaction to use the provided old and new object
> > IDs to write a reflog entry. The `REF_HAVE_OLD` flag is then used as a
> > signal to verify that the caller really did provide an old object ID.
> > 
> > Stop unsetting the flag so that we can use it as this described signal
> > in a subsequent commit. Skip checking the old object ID for log-only
> > updates so that we don't expect it to match the current on-disk state.
> 
> I like this direction, but I happened to be working in this area
> yesterday[1] and noticed something interesting. You're effectively
> replacing this removal of the HAVE_OLD flag when split a symref update:
> 
> > diff --git a/refs/files-backend.c b/refs/files-backend.c
> > index bf6f89b1d19..8b42fe18901 100644
> > --- a/refs/files-backend.c
> > +++ b/refs/files-backend.c
> > @@ -2493,7 +2493,6 @@ static enum ref_transaction_error split_symref_update(struct ref_update *update,
> >  	 * done when new_update is processed.
> >  	 */
> >  	update->flags |= REF_LOG_ONLY | REF_NO_DEREF;
> > -	update->flags &= ~REF_HAVE_OLD;
> >  
> >  	return 0;
> >  }
> 
> and then later we get the same logic by checking for LOG_ONLY:
> 
> > @@ -2508,8 +2507,9 @@ static enum ref_transaction_error check_old_oid(struct ref_update *update,
> >  						struct object_id *oid,
> >  						struct strbuf *err)
> >  {
> > -	if (!(update->flags & REF_HAVE_OLD) ||
> > -		   oideq(oid, &update->old_oid))
> > +	if (update->flags & REF_LOG_ONLY ||
> > +	    !(update->flags & REF_HAVE_OLD) ||
> > +	    oideq(oid, &update->old_oid))
> >  		return 0;
> >  
> >  	if (is_null_oid(&update->old_oid)) {
> 
> Which make sense to me. But the weird thing I noticed is that when we do
> something similar for split_head_update(), we don't strip REF_HAVE_OLD!

And we shouldn't do that, as in the next commit we actually build on
always having `REF_HAVE_OLD` set for reflog-only updates. So I'd argue
that the problem is actually the other way round: when splitting off the
HEAD update we must resolve the old object ID if `REF_HAVE_OLD` is not
set.

> (For those not familiar with that

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-28 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-22 11:20 [PATCH 0/8] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 1/8] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 22:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 2/8] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 18:14   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 16:45       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 3/8] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 18:25   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  8:36   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 12:55   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 4/8] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 19:00   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 12:54   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-25  5:36     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 16:20   ` SZEDER Gábor
2025-07-24 21:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-25  5:36       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25 14:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 5/8] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 6/8] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 19:41   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24  9:41   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 12:56   ` Toon Claes
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-23 20:31   ` Justin Tobler
2025-07-24  7:42     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-24 10:21   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-24 11:35     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 11:20 ` [PATCH 8/8] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-22 22:09   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-23  4:04     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 1/8] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 2/8] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 3/8] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 4/8] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-28 15:33     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-28 18:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-28 20:39         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-28 20:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-30  7:55             ` Karthik Nayak
2025-07-29  0:25       ` Ben Knoble
2025-07-29  6:14         ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2025-07-29  6:51         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 15:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-30  5:33             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-30 10:33               ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 5/8] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 6/8] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 7/8] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25 11:36     ` Jeff King
2025-07-28 14:43       ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-07-29  7:14         ` Jeff King
2025-07-29  7:54           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-25  6:58   ` [PATCH v2 8/8] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-01 11:38     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  7:37       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 16:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-01 11:37     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-04  7:38       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29 16:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-01 11:55     ` Toon Claes
2025-08-02 11:11     ` Jeff King
2025-08-04  7:38       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 14:47         ` Jeff King
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-07-29  8:55   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 15:38     ` Jeff King
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04  9:46   ` [PATCH v4 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 17:04     ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2025-08-05 21:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06  5:53         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:11   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 18:47   ` [PATCH v5 0/9] refs: fix migration of reflog entries Jeff King
2025-08-06  5:53     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54 ` [PATCH v6 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 1/9] Documentation/git-reflog: convert to use synopsis type Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 2/9] builtin/reflog: improve grouping of subcommands Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 3/9] refs: export `ref_transaction_update_reflog()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 4/9] builtin/reflog: implement subcommand to write new entries Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 5/9] ident: fix type of string length parameter Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 6/9] refs: fix identity for migrated reflogs Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 7/9] refs/files: detect race when generating reflog entry for HEAD Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 8/9] refs: stop unsetting REF_HAVE_OLD for log-only updates Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06  5:54   ` [PATCH v6 9/9] refs: fix invalid old object IDs when migrating reflogs Patrick Steinhardt

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