From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
Oswald Buddenhagen <oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] commit-graph: stop using signed integers to count bloom filters
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 09:04:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJRP_muuzCAy3mzF@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq4iukwj83.fsf@gitster.g>
On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 08:41:32AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>
> >> I wrote these counters in 312cff5207 (bloom: split 'get_bloom_filter()'
> >> in two, 2020-09-16) and 59f0d5073f (bloom: encode out-of-bounds filters
> >> as non-empty, 2020-09-17), and I don't see a compelling reason that
> >> these should be unsigned.
> >
> > I think that is going backwards though: the question to ask is why
> > should these be signed if they cannot ever be negative?
>
> Earlier I gave an example of allowing for a "not yet counted"
> sentinel value for a variable or a structure member. Another
> example may be for a function that counts that also needs to signal
> an error, and as usual in any C programs, the natural way to do so
> for any function whose "normal" return values are non-negative
> integers is to signal errors with a negative value.
>
> Note that a structure member or a variable that does not need such a
> "not yet counted" sentinel value (e.g., it may have a separate
> "counted already" member associated with it, or the nature of the
> thing it counts does not have such "not yet counted" state), and it
> is possible for such a variable to live happily with a function that
> can signal an error.
>
> It means the variable that receives the counted result from such a
> function may be able to use only half a range of values as its type
> implies, if that helper function is the only source of information
> that is assigned to it, though.
>
> If the counter in question never needs to store such a sentinel
> value itself, then I am OK for it to be unsigned, and that is
> exactly why I said "not always a valid excuse". But if the counter
> variable or structure member has to work with functions that need to
> return sentinel values (like platform natural int that can use the
> usual "negative is an error, non-negative is a normal result"), it
> may have less chance to trigger the -Wsign-compare irritation, if
> you made it also signed.
Yup, fully agreed, and this is a good reason why it should be signed. In
the case at hand though we never use such sentinel values, and I think
making that explicit by using an unsigned type is a good thing as it
tells the reader that "Yup, no sentinels involved, it's a plain counter
from 0 to $NUM_ENTRIES".
Patrick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-07 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-04 8:17 [PATCH 0/9] commit-graph: remove reliance on global state Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 1/9] trace2: introduce function to trace unsigned integers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 21:33 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 2/9] commit-graph: stop using signed integers to count bloom filters Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 9:13 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-08-04 11:18 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 18:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-04 21:44 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-06 6:23 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:54 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-08-06 19:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-06 15:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-07 7:04 ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-08-07 22:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 8:05 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 15:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-04 21:42 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 3/9] commit-graph: fix type for some write options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 21:52 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 4/9] commit-graph: fix sign comparison warnings Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 22:04 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-06 6:52 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 5/9] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` via macros Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 22:05 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 6/9] commit-graph: store the hash algorithm instead of its length Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 22:07 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 7/9] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 22:10 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-06 6:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 8/9] commit-graph: stop using `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-04 22:11 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-04 8:17 ` [PATCH 9/9] commit-graph: stop passing in redundant repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-05 4:27 ` [PATCH 0/9] commit-graph: remove reliance on global state Derrick Stolee
2025-08-06 6:53 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] trace2: introduce function to trace unsigned integers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] commit-graph: stop using signed integers to count Bloom filters Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] commit-graph: fix type for some write options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:34 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2025-08-06 15:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-07 7:07 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] commit-graph: fix sign comparison warnings Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` via macros Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] commit-graph: store the hash algorithm instead of its length Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] commit-graph: refactor `parse_commit_graph()` to take a repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-06 12:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] commit-graph: stop passing in redundant repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] commit-graph: remove reliance on global state Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] trace2: introduce function to trace unsigned integers Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] commit-graph: stop using signed integers to count Bloom filters Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] commit-graph: fix type for some write options Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 22:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 8:24 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] commit-graph: fix sign comparison warnings Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` via macros Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] commit-graph: store the hash algorithm instead of its length Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] commit-graph: refactor `parse_commit_graph()` to take a repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] commit-graph: stop using `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-07 8:04 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] commit-graph: stop passing in redundant repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] commit-graph: remove reliance on global state Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` via macros Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] commit-graph: store the hash algorithm instead of its length Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] commit-graph: refactor `parse_commit_graph()` to take a repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] commit-graph: stop using `the_hash_algo` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] commit-graph: stop using `the_repository` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 5:49 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] commit-graph: stop passing in redundant repository Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-15 15:17 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] commit-graph: remove reliance on global state Derrick Stolee
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