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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Julia Evans via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 10:46:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJmt1fv66bO_ZMpI@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <105a65e6e7121ac6a9a8a1d0b4f3217495a9f5e7.1754702057.git.gitgitgadget@gmail.com>

On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 01:14:17AM +0000, Julia Evans via GitGitGadget wrote:
> diff --git a/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc b/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> index 50c84f138212..c16ee37b46a7 100644
> --- a/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> +++ b/Documentation/git-rebase.adoc
> @@ -65,31 +65,31 @@ linkgit:git-config[1] for details) and the `--fork-point` option is
>  assumed.  If you are currently not on any branch or if the current
>  branch does not have a configured upstream, the rebase will abort.
>  
> -All changes made by commits in the current branch but that are not
> -in `<upstream>` are saved to a temporary area.  This is the same set
> -of commits that would be shown by `git log <upstream>..HEAD`; or by
> -`git log 'fork_point'..HEAD`, if `--fork-point` is active (see the
> -description on `--fork-point` below); or by `git log HEAD`, if the
> -`--root` option is specified.
> -
> -The current branch is reset to `<upstream>` or `<newbase>` if the
> -`--onto` option was supplied.  This has the exact same effect as
> -`git reset --hard <upstream>` (or `<newbase>`). `ORIG_HEAD` is set
> -to point at the tip of the branch before the reset.
> +Here is a more detailed description of what `git rebase <upstream>` does:
> +
> +First, it makes a list of all commits in the current branch that are not in
> +`<upstream>`. This is the same set of commits that would be shown by `git log
> +<upstream>..HEAD`. You can use `--fork-point` or `--root` to change how this
> +list of commits is constructed.
> +
> +Then it checks out `<upstream>` (or `<newbase>` if the `--onto` option was
> +supplied) with the equivalent of `git switch --detach <upstream>`.
> +
> +Then it replays the commits, one by one, in order. This is similar to running
> +`git cherry-pick <commit>` for each commit. See REBASING MERGES for how merges
> +are handled.
> +
> +Finally, it updates your branch to point to the final commit with the equivalent
> +of `git switch -C <branch>`.

Would it make sense to convert this into a bulleted list to further
highlight this multi-step process?

>  [NOTE]
> +`ORIG_HEAD` is set to point at the tip of the branch before the rebase.
>  `ORIG_HEAD` is not guaranteed to still point to the previous branch tip
>  at the end of the rebase if other commands that write that pseudo-ref
>  (e.g. `git reset`) are used during the rebase. The previous branch tip,
>  however, is accessible using the reflog of the current branch
>  (i.e. `@{1}`, see linkgit:gitrevisions[7]).

This information feels somewhat contradictory. Should we maybe say
something like this:

    When starting the rebase, `ORIG_HEAD` is set to point to at the tip
    of the to-be-rebased branch. As `ORIG_HEAD` may be modified by
    various operations during the rebase, it is not guaranteed to still
    point to this branch at the end of the rebase. The previous branch
    tip, however, is accessible using the reflog of the current branch
    (i.e. `@{1}`, see linkgit:gitrevisions[7]).

Note that I'm also dropping the reference to "pseudo-ref". ORIG_HEAD is
not a pseudo-ref, as we have clarified in 6fd8037564
(Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refs,
2024-05-15).

Patrick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-08 15:24 [PATCH 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 16:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 17:13     ` Julia Evans
2025-08-08 18:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 17:48   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 15:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 23:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 21:09     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 19:15   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-08 22:52   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-08 22:52     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09  1:14     ` [PATCH v4 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09  1:14       ` [PATCH v4 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-10 15:41         ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-11  8:46         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11  9:13         ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-11 12:27           ` Ben Knoble
2025-08-12  9:05             ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-12 14:30               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 13:07           ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-12  9:07             ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-12 17:07               ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-12 18:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-14  7:23                   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-09  1:14       ` [PATCH v4 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11  8:46         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 13:02           ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-09  1:14       ` [PATCH v4 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09  1:14       ` [PATCH v4 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-09 14:55         ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-09  1:14       ` [PATCH v4 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-10 15:42         ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-13 18:55           ` symmetric difference with --left-only vs. range notation D. Ben Knoble
2025-08-13 21:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11  8:46         ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-08-11 12:29           ` [PATCH v4 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Ben Knoble
2025-08-11 13:45             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-11 19:34           ` Julia Evans
2025-08-11 20:12       ` [PATCH v5 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 20:12         ` [PATCH v5 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 21:51         ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51           ` [PATCH v6 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51           ` [PATCH v6 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51           ` [PATCH v6 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51           ` [PATCH v6 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 21:51           ` [PATCH v6 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-11 22:10             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-11 22:42               ` Julia Evans
2025-08-11 21:59           ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Junio C Hamano
2025-08-12 13:49           ` [PATCH v7 " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49             ` [PATCH v7 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49             ` [PATCH v7 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49             ` [PATCH v7 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49             ` [PATCH v7 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-12 13:49             ` [PATCH v7 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-14 21:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 16:52             ` [PATCH v8 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52               ` [PATCH v8 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52               ` [PATCH v8 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52               ` [PATCH v8 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 16:52               ` [PATCH v8 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-15 21:05                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-18 13:42                   ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-18 17:06                     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19 15:03                       ` Julia Evans
2025-08-19 19:45                         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 16:52               ` [PATCH v8 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-18 13:43               ` [PATCH v8 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Phillip Wood
2025-08-23  0:42               ` [PATCH v9 " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23  0:42                 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] doc: git-rebase: start with an example Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23  0:42                 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] doc: git rebase: dedup merge conflict discussion Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23  0:43                 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] doc: git rebase: clarify arguments syntax Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23  0:43                 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] doc: git-rebase: move --onto explanation down Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-23  0:43                 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] doc: git-rebase: update discussion of internals Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2025-08-13 13:31           ` [PATCH v6 0/5] doc: git-rebase: clarify DESCRIPTION section Phillip Wood
2025-08-13 15:33             ` Julia Evans
2025-08-14 21:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 10:25                 ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-15 15:45                   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-15 15:54                     ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-15 15:56                       ` Julia Evans
2025-08-15 10:25               ` Phillip Wood
2025-08-09 15:04   ` [PATCH v2 " D. Ben Knoble

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