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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/16] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()`
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 19:25:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMNahx/RBoRljSZd@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLav7vdfxPGTVDQd@pks.im>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 10:50:54AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 09:38:47PM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 09:39:12AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > > We have two different functions to retrieve packfiles for a packfile
> > > store:
> > >
> > >   - `get_packed_git()` returns the list of packfiles after having called
> > >     `prepare_packed_git()`.
> > >
> > >   - `get_all_packs()` calls `prepare_packed_git()`, as well, but also
> > >     calls `prepare_midx_pack()` for each pack.
> >
> > Yeah, having two of these functions that are named so similarly as to
> > suggest they do the same thing (even though they don't) is unfortunate,
> > and I am glad that we are looking at it here.
> >
> > > This means that the latter function also properly loads the info of
> > > whether or not a packfile is part of a multi-pack index. Preparing this
> > > extra information also shouldn't be significantly more expensive:
> >
> > Right; get_packed_git() only loads the non-MIDX'd packs, and
> > get_all_packs() loads everything (regardless whether or not a pack is
> > part of the MIDX or not).
>
> I initially understood the distinction of these functions to be exactly
> this. But after looking further I don't think this is the actual
> distinction: both functions end up loading all packfiles in the repo,
> with the only distinction being that `get_all_packs()` also prepares the
> MIDX for each MIDX'd packfile.

Calling both get_packed_git() and get_all_packs() both result in:

 - prepare_packed_git(), which calls
 - prepare_packed_git_one(), which calls
 - for_each_file_in_pack_dir(), which calls (via callback)
 - prepare_pack

prepare_pack() only calls add_packed_git() and install_packed_git() if
the file it's look at ends in "*.idx", *and* there is either no MIDX, or
(if there is one) the packfile is not listed in the MIDX.

get_all_packs(), on the other hand, *does* call prepare_midx_pack() on
all MIDXs across all ODB sources, after having called
prepare_packed_git(). And prepare_midx_pack() will add MIDX'd packs to
the global list of packs, which is what differentiates these two calls.

I think this gets a little funky in practice if you have already called
prepare_midx_pack() on one or more MIDX'd packfiles before calling
get_packed_git(), because of the side effect of prepare_midx_pack()
installing packs into the global list.

So the above behavior isn't guaranteed, but there definitely is a
difference between those two functions depending on whether or not some
other site has called prepare_midx_pack().

> > So I think that want_object_in_pack_mtime() may need a small tweak, and
> > I am not 100% certain that cmd_grep() is OK to convert.
>
> I initially misunderstood the distinction between these two functions
> the same as you did, and had a similar list to the above in the initial
> commit message. But with the adjusted understanding of the actual
> difference between these functions I think it shouldn't be necessary
> anymore to go through each caller one by one.

From the above, I am not sure that this is true.

Thanks,
Taylor

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19  8:19 [PATCH 00/16] packfile: carve out a new packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 01/16] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  9:47   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20  4:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 17:32   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20  4:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 02/16] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 03/16] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  9:57   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19 16:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20  8:04       ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-22 23:50         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 12:19           ` [PATCH] Documentation: note styling for bit fields Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20  4:58     ` [PATCH 03/16] odb: move initialization bit into `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20  6:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 04/16] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 05/16] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 12:44   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20 19:20     ` Jeff King
2025-08-21  6:40       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 06/16] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 18:56   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20  4:58     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 07/16] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 19:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 08/16] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 09/16] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:17   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 10/16] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 11/16] packfile: always add packfiles to MRU when adding a pack Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:35   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 12/16] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:41   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21  6:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 13/16] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 14/16] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:50   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21  6:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:51   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 15/16] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:53   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21  6:40     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19  8:19 ` [PATCH 16/16] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 17:13 ` [PATCH 00/16] packfile: carve out a new " Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20 13:55 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21  7:38 ` [PATCH v2 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:38   ` [PATCH v2 01/16] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 02/16] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-25 23:42     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 17:21         ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 17:42           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03  5:58             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:16         ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15  7:44           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 03/16] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  1:40     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 04/16] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  1:41     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 05/16] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 06/16] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  1:46     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 07/16] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  1:47     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 08/16] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  1:58     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 09/16] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  2:10     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 10/16] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26  2:11     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 11/16] packfile: always add packfiles to MRU when adding a pack Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27  1:04     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 12/16] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27  1:12     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 13/16] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27  1:20     ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 14/16] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27  1:38     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:50       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:25         ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2025-09-15  7:30           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 15/16] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27  1:45     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02  8:51       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:33         ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15  7:44           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21  7:39   ` [PATCH v2 16/16] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09  7:49     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09  8:00     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:09       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09  8:22     ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:01       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 13/15] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48   ` [PATCH v3 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 16:40   ` [PATCH v3 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Junio C Hamano
2025-09-11 23:34     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-09  9:33   ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:02 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 13/15] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:37     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03   ` [PATCH v4 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-10  7:35   ` [PATCH v4 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Karthik Nayak
2025-09-11 23:40   ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-11 23:42     ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15  7:25       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 21:26     ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23  9:34       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-24 21:56         ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 22:15     ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23  9:35       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 21:59     ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 22:32     ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23  9:34       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 13/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15  8:54   ` [PATCH v5 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:16 ` [PATCH v6 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 13/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17   ` [PATCH v6 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-24 21:58   ` [PATCH v6 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Justin Tobler
2025-09-25 16:08   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-26  5:26     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-28 22:05       ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-29 21:39         ` Patrick Steinhardt

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