From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>,
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/16] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 19:33:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMNcNTfcg1Jn+oeU@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLawAalFhp9j0qVz@pks.im>
On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 10:51:13AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 09:45:15PM -0400, Taylor Blau wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 09:39:13AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > > The `get_all_packs()` function prepares the packfile store and then
> > > returns its packfiles. Refactor it to accept a packfile store instead of
> > > a repository to clarify its scope.
> >
> > I think that clarifying the scope here is a good idea. But I am a little
> > sad to see this patch proposing that we drop get_all_packs(), which IMHO
> > is a useful convenience function.
> >
> > In effect this is pushing out the implementation details of the
> > packfile_store out to every caller that wants to use get_all_packs(),
> > which I am not sure is a win. Should those callers care where the array
> > of packs is found, or have to write
> >
> > packfile_store_get_packs(the_repository->objects->packfiles)
> >
> > each time they want to get the set of packs in a repository?
> >
> > I could see an argument in the future where we have object stores that
> > aren't packfile-based and thus calling "get_all_packs()" is not
> > meaningful. But I don't think we are there yet, so I think that this
> > patch is pushing the burden of that future hypothetical on all existing
> > callers of get_all_packs().
>
> We aren't there yet indeed, but the entire goal of this patch series is
> to prepare for that future. So we have to do some steps into that
> direction that might not yet be entirely sensible by themselves, but
> that are necessary prerequisites.
I understand what you're saying, but I think this is the wrong place to
be applying that trade-off.
Yes, we will eventually want to have callers handle object lookups
differently depending on what ODB is in use. When that happens, yes, we
should be pushing callers to go through the ODB abstraction layer. But
we are not there yet, and I do not see a compelling reason to force this
burden on *all* callers of get_all_packs() today.
> In the end there ideally shouldn't be that many callers that want to
> access packfiles directly, but it should be the case that most of them
> go via the ODB. But many of the callers that we're adapting in this
> patch are callers that are deeply tied to the actual ODB on-disk layout,
> and we'll have to tear down the abstraction layer between ODB and the
> actual backend used to store objects. It's unfortunate, but we cannot
> really avoid that in a bunch of situations.
Maybe at some point, but that is definitely not the case today. I count
nearly 50 mentions of either "get_all_packs()" or "get_packed_git()".
I am fine with evolving those callers one at a time, and think that the
"the_repository" conversion has a good model for us to follow here.
Replacing, say, get_oid() with repo_get_oid() over time instead for
forcing all callers to do so at once was a good idea for a number of
reasons, and I think we should follow the same model here.
Thanks,
Taylor
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2025-08-19 8:19 [PATCH 00/16] packfile: carve out a new packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 01/16] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 9:47 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20 4:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 17:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20 4:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 02/16] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 03/16] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 9:57 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19 16:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20 8:04 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-22 23:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-26 12:19 ` [PATCH] Documentation: note styling for bit fields Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20 4:58 ` [PATCH 03/16] odb: move initialization bit into `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 6:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 04/16] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 05/16] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 12:44 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-20 19:20 ` Jeff King
2025-08-21 6:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 06/16] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 18:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20 4:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 07/16] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 19:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 08/16] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 09/16] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:17 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 10/16] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 11/16] packfile: always add packfiles to MRU when adding a pack Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:35 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 12/16] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:41 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21 6:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 13/16] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 14/16] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:50 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21 6:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:51 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 15/16] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-20 13:53 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21 6:40 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 8:19 ` [PATCH 16/16] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-19 17:13 ` [PATCH 00/16] packfile: carve out a new " Junio C Hamano
2025-08-20 13:55 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-08-21 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-25 23:42 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 17:21 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 17:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-03 5:58 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:16 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15 7:44 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 1:40 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 1:41 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 1:46 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 1:47 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 1:58 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 2:10 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-26 2:11 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] packfile: always add packfiles to MRU when adding a pack Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27 1:04 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27 1:12 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27 1:20 ` Taylor Blau
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27 1:38 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:25 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15 7:30 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-27 1:45 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-02 8:51 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:33 ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2025-09-15 7:44 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-08-21 7:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 7:49 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 8:00 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:09 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 8:22 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:01 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 10:48 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-02 16:40 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Junio C Hamano
2025-09-11 23:34 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-09 9:33 ` Karthik Nayak
2025-09-09 11:02 ` [PATCH v4 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] packfile: remove `get_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-11 23:37 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-09 11:03 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-10 7:35 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Karthik Nayak
2025-09-11 23:40 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-11 23:42 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-15 7:25 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 21:26 ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23 9:34 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-24 21:56 ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 22:15 ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23 9:35 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 21:59 ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-17 22:32 ` Justin Tobler
2025-09-23 9:34 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 13/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-15 8:54 ` [PATCH v5 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:16 ` [PATCH v6 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 01/15] packfile: introduce a new `struct packfile_store` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 02/15] odb: move list of packfiles into " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 03/15] odb: move initialization bit " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 04/15] odb: move packfile map " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 05/15] odb: move MRU list of packfiles " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 06/15] odb: move kept cache " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 07/15] packfile: reorder functions to avoid function declaration Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 08/15] packfile: refactor `prepare_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 09/15] packfile: split up responsibilities of `reprepare_packed_git()` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 10/15] packfile: refactor `install_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 11/15] packfile: introduce function to load and add packfiles Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 12/15] packfile: move `get_multi_pack_index()` into "midx.c" Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 13/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git()` to work on packfile store Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 14/15] packfile: refactor `get_all_packs()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 10:17 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] packfile: refactor `get_packed_git_mru()` " Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-24 21:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/15] packfile: carve out a new " Justin Tobler
2025-09-25 16:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-26 5:26 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-28 22:05 ` Taylor Blau
2025-09-29 21:39 ` Patrick Steinhardt
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