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From: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
To: Ezekiel Newren <ezekielnewren@gmail.com>
Cc: Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/18] Introduce rust: In xdiff
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 15:01:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNFIozagGc0MoseL@pks.im> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH=ZcbBNFSwU7E+P7hkQnt9UrMKiCRESgGvWPL7pRUa0i2U5-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 02:57:58PM -0600, Ezekiel Newren wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 11:58 PM Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> wrote:
> > Given that this isn't yet ready and given that this patch series is way
> > bigger than the one I have in flight that focusses on introducing the
> > policy [1]: how about we first merge that one down and then rebase your
> > patches on top of it to iterate? It would reduce the scope of your patch
> > series and allow us to make smaller steps towards our goal.
> >
> > To be clear: I very much think that most of the steps here are quite
> > sensible. We definitely want to introduce cbindgen, we obviously need to
> > introduce support on Windows, and I guess having multiple different
> > workspaces is also something that could provide benefit.
> >
> > But there is no reason to have that all at once, so hence my suggestion
> > to build out the infra one step at a time.
> >
> > What do you think?
> 
> I think I made a big mistake of not making it clear that I intended v2
> as more of an RFC. My worry (that I expressed very poorly or not at
> all) is how hard will it be to apply my patches on top of your
> foundation? I don't know if minor or major changes to your current
> path would be needed, so I proposed a different way to Introduce Rust
> while trying to incorporate work from others.

Ah, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying your intentions!

I don't think there'd have to be major changes to the current version
of my patch series. The idea of that patch series is very much getting
buy-in regarding our roadmap and focus less on the actual build infra.
So the changes introduced are mostly an MVC, and I very much think that
we'll have to iterate quite a bit on it, but that's intended.

I think that a lot of the steps you outline below are logical next steps
to get there. If I can change anything to make these next steps easier
for you I'm happy to do so. But I also don't think it's too bad if we
have to change the current infra quite significantly to get there.

> I wanted feedback on:
>   * Cleaning up Rust type name collisions
>     * People don't like it, so I'll drop that

I don't have a strong opinion on this. If it creates issues I personally
don't mind fixing it.

>   * Have Makefile produce libgit.a correctly.
>     * I think this is a good idea, but it doesn't belong in this patch series.
>   * Adding Rust unit test which required fixing Make and adding
> build-helper to reduce boilerplate code
>     * I think this is a good idea, but should be added later.
>   * Introduce cbindgen to avoid desync errors between Rust and C.
>     * LIke other points above; This should be added later.

Agreed, these all make sense to me.

>   * What should we call the crate that will be the new home for .c and
> .h files in the root of Git?

We could call this something like "libgit-ffi", but I don't care too
much.

Thanks!

Patrick

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 19:42 [PATCH 00/15] Introduce rust: In xdiff Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 01/15] doc: add a policy for using Rust brian m. carlson via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 20:00   ` brian m. carlson
2025-08-29 20:11     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-02 16:39       ` brian m. carlson
2025-09-02 18:39         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-04 22:55           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 02/15] xdiff: introduce rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 03/15] github workflows: install rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 04/15] win+Meson: do allow linking with the Rust-built xdiff Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 05/15] github workflows: upload Cargo.lock Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 06/15] ivec: create a vector type that is interoperable between C and Rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 07/15] xdiff/xprepare: remove superfluous forward declarations Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 08/15] xdiff: delete unnecessary fields from xrecord_t and xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 09/15] xdiff: make fields of xrecord_t Rust friendly Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 10/15] xdiff: use one definition for freeing xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 11/15] xdiff: replace chastore with an ivec in xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 12/15] xdiff: delete nrec field from xdfile_t Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 13/15] xdiff: delete recs " Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 14/15] xdiff: make xdfile_t more rust friendly Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-08-29 19:42 ` [PATCH 15/15] xdiff: implement xdl_trim_ends() in Rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Introduce rust: In xdiff Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 01/18] cleanup: rename variables that collide with Rust primitive type names Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:42     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 14:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 19:36         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 02/18] make: add -fPIE flag Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:44     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:48       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 21:52           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 23:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 23:59               ` Collin Funk
2025-09-20 16:44                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-21  1:14                   ` Ramsay Jones
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 03/18] make: merge xdiff lib into libgit.a Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:46     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:54       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 04/18] make: merge reftable " Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  7:46     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 19:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 20:00       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-19 23:02           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 05/18] doc: add a policy for using Rust brian m. carlson via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 06/18] BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatory Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 07/18] build: introduce rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:26     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 14:54       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-18  7:06         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:11       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:24         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 21:28           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 08/18] help: report on whether or not Rust is enabled Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 09/18] github workflows: install rust Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:01     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 10/18] win+Meson: do allow linking with the Rust-built xdiff Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 11/18] github workflows: upload Cargo.lock Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 12/18] build: new crate, build-helper Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:58     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 13/18] build-helper: link against libgit.a and any other required C libraries Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  8:51     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-17 23:07       ` D. Ben Knoble
2025-09-17 23:31         ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:25       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 14/18] build-helper: cbindgen, let crates generate a header file Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  9:08     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:34       ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 15/18] varint: use explicit width for integers Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 16/18] build: new crate, misc Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  9:16     ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 20:42     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-19 20:50       ` Eric Sunshine
2025-09-19 21:54         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 17/18] misc: use BuildHelper Ezekiel Newren via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  1:16   ` [PATCH v2 18/18] misc::varint: reimplement as test balloon for Rust Patrick Steinhardt via GitGitGadget
2025-09-17  5:58   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Introduce rust: In xdiff Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-19 20:57     ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 13:01       ` Patrick Steinhardt [this message]
2025-09-22 15:31         ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 16:08           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 16:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 17:23             ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 17:32               ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 18:17                 ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 18:33                   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 18:41                     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 18:12               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 17:07   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 20:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-17 21:34     ` Elijah Newren
2025-09-17 22:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-09-22 13:01         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 15:18           ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-22 16:15             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-22 16:27               ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23  5:11                 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2025-09-23 16:32                   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23 18:05   ` Ezekiel Newren
2025-09-23 21:04     ` Junio C Hamano

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